I know at least one person who has run 25mg of drol. I think he said he liked it, and didn't get real bloated but gained nice strength. I am weary of combining any of the following, deca, tren, drol, i know a couple bros who started lactating from these drugs, lol. I think if that happened to me i might have to call it quits. That is just a personal preference though. Many people combine these drugs.