Cycle question.

[Rich-Myster]

Hey everyone! I have a few questions that i need answered

In the near future i plan on running a 10 week Test E cycle at 500MG a week. Now here are my questions

During those 10 weeks, should i continuously run nolva? or should i use it only for pct or if i start to get a case of bitch tits? I believe that i have read that it may hinder results if you use it during your cycle, so i just want this clarified, and i'd also like to know the dose that i should be taking either during or after during my pct.

Now, after my 2 week waiting period, for pct, could i just use nolva? or should i get clomid? I heard that they're very similar and that nolva is actually some what better.

If i use both in pct, how much of each should i use? And for how long?

For my liver, i am curious as to how much milk thistle i should be using during the entire cycle.

Also, for hawthorn berry, how much would you guys recommend throughout the cycle?

and last but not least, for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), should i even bother? And if i do, should i only use it if my testes turn into raisins? And how much should i use if such a thing occurs?

AND LEAST, is everything listed above enough junk to keep my body "safe" during the 10 week cycle.

Thanks.

 

[King-kong]

Stats?
Cycle History?

Milke thistle? are you using any orally administered supplements?

 

[Rich-Myster]

Stats?
Cycle History?

Milke thistle? are you using any orally administered supplements?

This would be my first cycle of Test.

I've done 2 cycles of m1t already.

The test would be injected, not oral.

 

[KaoticSolja]

Hey everyone! I have a few questions that i need answered

In the near future i plan on running a 10 week Test E cycle at 500MG a week. Now here are my questions

During those 10 weeks, should i continuously run nolva? or should i use it only for pct or if i start to get a case of bitch tits? I believe that i have read that it may hinder results if you use it during your cycle, so i just want this clarified, and i'd also like to know the dose that i should be taking either during or after during my pct.

Now, after my 2 week waiting period, for pct, could i just use nolva? or should i get clomid? I heard that they're very similar and that nolva is actually some what better.

If i use both in pct, how much of each should i use? And for how long?

For my liver, i am curious as to how much milk thistle i should be using during the entire cycle.

Also, for hawthorn berry, how much would you guys recommend throughout the cycle?

and last but not least, for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), should i even bother? And if i do, should i only use it if my testes turn into raisins? And how much should i use if such a thing occurs?

AND LEAST, is everything listed above enough junk to keep my body "safe" during the 10 week cycle.

Thanks.

If this is all injectable which im going to go ahead and assume it is your liver will not be affected enough that you need milk thistle or Liver 52.....but you could go ahead and run it if it makes you feel better.... Now for the nolva question...do not run throughout the cycle....please you need to do more reasearch...there are many pleaces to find it but its best you look yourself because you will come upon other things that will help you learn and understand what your body will be going through....Tamoxifen Citrate should be run from 4 to 6 weeks....and started 2 weeks after your cycle of enth is done...20/20/20/10/10 i would say is good.....or even better
Pct weeks 12-13 40mg a day of Nolvadex
weeks 14-16 nolvadex 20mg ED
weeks 13-16 Clomid 50mg Ed

or something to that effect....
hcg is not a most but you can run it at 250 iu twice a week from the 5th week on...

 

[KaoticSolja]

Heres what I found just typing in post cycle therapy (pct) into the search box above this web site...Basic post cycle therapy (pct) doses and duration.

The first thing that needs attention is the testicle. HCG is needed to prevent testicular atrophy. 300-500ius every 4-5 days throughout a cycle will do the trick. IF you have waited until the end to fix the problem, take 500ius ED for the last 14-21 days of your cycle. After the testicles are taken care of we can work on restarting the HPTA. Here are a few ways in which you can address the problem.

SERMs have been documented in studies, personal experience, and real world feed back to aid in restarting the HPTA

NOTE: SERMs will not work on all, so I will try and give alternatives later in the thread.

Basic Clomid post cycle therapy (pct):
Day 1: 300mg
Day 2 to 10: 100mg ED
Day 11 to 21: 50mg ED

Basic Nolvadex post cycle therapy (pct):
Days 1 to 14: 40mg ED
Days 15 to 30: 20mg ED

I feel that a combo of the 2 are not needed. If the sides of Clomid are to much, use Nolvadex.

There are a few supplements I would use also to help with the lowered libido, increased SHBGs, and raised liver values

- MACA should help increase you libido
- Avena Sativa should lower SHBGs and increase free test.
- r-ALA will help repair any damage to the liver and help with glucose disposal.

There is also an alternative post cycle therapy (pct) that I personally dont recomend, but has worked for others.

Using the Herbal supplementations along with Proviron will help decrease the possible crash and increase libido. If you are one who recovers better than most, this way might be better. Although proviron can be suppressive, some can recover while using it. The HPTA will recover from time alone, so this post cycle therapy (pct) will take care of the crash symtoms and help get you though untill your HPTA recovers on it own.

NOTE: Using any of the above post cycle therapy (pct)s will not guarantee recovery. It is only a guide line to help. Everyone is different and you will need to find the best post cycle therapy (pct) to help you recover.

The only way to find out if you have truely recovered is blood work, so make sure you get the test done to find out whether the post cycle therapy (pct) you chose worked for you.

I hope this helps.

Also, please dont make this a debate...take what you want from the thread and find out what works for you!

 

[Rich-Myster]

i read all of that, i even have it book marked, but he said that he personally runs nolva throughout his entire cycle at 20mg a day, and ups it to 50 if any sides occur.

 

[KaoticSolja]

ok well then like i said personally...
Pct weeks 12-13 40mg a day of Nolvadex
weeks 14-16 nolvadex 20mg ED
weeks 13-16 Clomid 50mg Ed

 

[Dlove]

Keep Nolvadex on hand in case signs of gyno flair. Clomid is far superior in reducing natural test production post cycle therapy (pct). Their cheap drugs so if you want what I like to do is cover all the bases. Clomid and Nolva

Weeks 1-2 Clomid 50mg, Nolva 40mg
Weeks 2-4 Clomid 50mg, Nolva 20mg

 

[WHINER]

ur stats as in age height weight and workout history

and clomi is superior to nolva

 

[Rich-Myster]

ur stats as in age height weight and workout history

and clomi is superior to nolva

age is 18 (DON'T DO ROIDS YOUR TOO YOUNG, yaya, i've done research, know the effects, and willing to accept em with open arms), height is 6 feet tall, weight is 220 coming off of an m1t cycle, and workout history is about 2 years. But i am an educated 2 "yearer", i've done lots and lots of research.

 

[Dlove]

Big Boy for 18. Is that you in the pic? 220 seems stretchin it, but then again when im on cycle people say what r u 260 and i chuckle im 284 at 6 3 then again its taken some time and a lot of steaks and chickens, lol. Good back bro, thicken up the lats since you gotta nice tight waist and do behind back shrugs. 6 ft is a great height to bodybuild. Play it safe man though at 18, sounds like your minds made up just plug in the PCT.

 

[Rich-Myster]

Big Boy for 18. Is that you in the pic? 220 seems stretchin it, but then again when im on cycle people say what r u 260 and i chuckle im 284 at 6 3 then again its taken some time and a lot of steaks and chickens, lol. Good back bro, thicken up the lats since you gotta nice tight waist and do behind back shrugs. 6 ft is a great height to bodybuild. Play it safe man though at 18, sounds like your minds made up just plug in the PCT.

yup it's me in the pic. and i'm going to be very careful when it comes down to everything. post and during cycle. thanks for the compliment

 

[cool hand james]

hey brother i'm a newbie here and have no idea what i'm doing so i'm asking the first dude that sounds like they're legit.... im gonna run Ana Anavar (var) and i could use guidance about doseage, when to take it, how much to take, do i need a post cycle therapy (pct)? and i've been hearing on some posts Anavar (var) can have nasty sides takin alone. I've done a month of oral Winstrol (winny) 50's my stepbrother gave me, let me tell you after it was done i felt like a little bitch i must have done something wrong. hope to here something.... and maybe even from what happened with my Winstrol (winny) cycle (i din't post cycle therapy (pct) either i didnt know what da fuk a post cycle therapy (pct) was) thanks

 

[riprockwell]

hey brother i'm a newbie here and have no idea what i'm doing so i'm asking the first dude that sounds like they're legit.... im gonna run Ana Anavar (var) and i could use guidance about doseage, when to take it, how much to take, do i need a post cycle therapy (pct)? and i've been hearing on some posts Anavar (var) can have nasty sides takin alone. I've done a month of oral Winstrol (winny) 50's my stepbrother gave me, let me tell you after it was done i felt like a little bitch i must have done something wrong. hope to here something.... and maybe even from what happened with my Winstrol (winny) cycle (i din't post cycle therapy (pct) either i didnt know what da fuk a post cycle therapy (pct) was) thanks

Do a little research and start a new thread with any questions. You just bumped a 2 year old thread bro. Stop all AAS use until you research what you are taking. Once you have done that, then start a thread and ask away. This site is an encyclopedia so just search around.

 

[rocko3927]

your natty test levels are high right now. take advantage of that and max ur natural potential. you don't even know how to run a proper cycle. with all the info out there and on this site it shows that you have done little to know research at all. it's very dangerous to be playing around with these compounds without the proper knowledge on how to safely use these compounds. using them at such a young age there is no safe way to use them. not trying to bash you at all just looking out.

 

[mouse king]

your natty test levels are high right now. take advantage of that and max ur natural potential. you don't even know how to run a proper cycle. with all the info out there and on this site it shows that you have done little to know research at all. it's very dangerous to be playing around with these compounds without the proper knowledge on how to safely use these compounds. using them at such a young age there is no safe way to use them. not trying to bash you at all just looking out.

who are you to stop if a young guy want to do a cycle ?? his father ?? look at you...you are still a fat ass after using roids and your are giving advise to ppl ?? ......weak

 

[rocko3927]

who are you to stop if a young guy want to do a cycle ?? his father ?? look at you...you are still a fat ass after using roids and your are giving advise to ppl ?? ......weak

r u serious u little fuck.... post some pics and we will see the little girl whom is spitting out b-shit,,,,,while i am just trying to give homeboy solid advice......it is always funny how the little girls like u run thier mouth but are scared to post pics......so in the meantime i and many other's will enjoy laughing at you..... and if you can prove me wrong do it bitch.

 

[riprockwell]

who are you to stop if a young guy want to do a cycle ?? his father ?? look at you...you are still a fat ass after using roids and your are giving advise to ppl ?? ......weak

No one is stopping some newbie from doing a cycle but rather watching out for him and giving solid advice. Besides, this is a 2 year old thread so go fuck yourself dickwad.

 

[rocko3927]

who are you to stop if a young guy want to do a cycle ?? his father ?? look at you...you are still a fat ass after using roids and your are giving advise to ppl ?? ......weak

i figured it out.... the lion queen is 17 years old and iss , with complex, looking for a reason to use gear..........

 

[rocko3927]

i understand ur a teenage girl that got ur feelings hurt when i lashed out at ur ignorant comments in a previos thread. sorry but i spit the truth senorita... i am sorry that at 17 you cant take getting your feelings hurt