Cycle review & advice/help please

[ivomous]

Hey friends,

This is my first cycle ever and I've spent a lot of time researching and figuring out how to do this the proper way. Here's what I've concluded with:

cycle plan:

Week 1 to 12 (Thursday of week 12)

testosterone Enanthate 250mg

500mg per week (250mg Monday, 250mg Thursday)

15 DAYS (2 WEEKS PAUSE)

Friday of week 14 to 15 (PCT)

40mg Nolvadex every day
50mg Clomed every day

Week 15 to 16

20mg Nolvadex every day
50mg Clomed every day

During cycle: Arimidex 0.25mg every day ONLY IF SIDES OCCUR and UNTIL they disappear!

Note: Do not take Adex with Nolvadex/Clomed

What do you think of this? Have I missed anything? I really don't want to mess anything up so I'd greatly appreciate any help here.

Thanks a lot in advance,
ivomous

 

[hiram1st]

How about pre, mid and post bloodwork?
Adex shoukd be started on day one @ 500 mg test a week yout will probably need it. Of you've done your research you'll see almost all cycles contain an AI. At your mid bloods you can adjust dosage as needed. You don't want to have high e2.

Not considering HCG?

 

[ivomous]

How about pre, mid and post bloodwork?
Adex shoukd be started on day one @ 500 mg test a week yout will probably need it. Of you've done your research you'll see almost all cycles contain an AI. At your mid bloods you can adjust dosage as needed. You don't want to have high e2.

Not considering HCG?

Thanks for the reply. I've heard that HCG isn't essential, and that I would be just fine without. Also I don't feel comfortable injecting anything more into my body as of now, so hopefully it's not extremely important? Of course if it is vital to my health and safety I must consider it, but I would much prefer not having to mess around with any more injectable substances.

So you recommend 0.25mg of Adex ED from the first injection of test to the very last injection?

Thanks again,
ivomous

 

[hiram1st]

EOD on the adex from day one till last pin. Adjust when you get mid blood work if needed. HCG isn't a must but it keeps atrophy at bay and keeps the testes active and promotes a better recovery.

 

[hiram1st]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...e-benefits-mixing-administration-details.html

 

[ivomous]

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/653703-hcg-cycle-benefits-mixing-administration-details.html

Hmm, that definitely looks something I should consider.. I'm just afraid the mixing and dosing and all that stuff is too much for me to grasp, I've already had enough hassle figuring out how to properly fill up the syringes with test (yes, even as simple stuff as that)..

I'm not quite sure if I fully understand the part about balls shrinkage though, don't they "automatically" get back to normal size after cycle/PCT even without HCG?

Edit: First and foremost my number one issue is I have no idea how and where to get hCG..

 

[hiram1st]

Hmm, that definitely looks something I should consider.. I'm just afraid the mixing and dosing and all that stuff is too much for me to grasp, I've already had enough hassle figuring out how to properly fill up the syringes with test (yes, even as simple stuff as that)..

I'm not quite sure if I fully understand the part about balls shrinkage though, don't they "automatically" get back to normal size after cycle/PCT even without HCG?

Edit: First and foremost my number one issue is I have no idea how and where to get hCG..

When you inject exogenous test your natural production shuts down the testes go into hibernation and shrink up. They should get back to normal as your HPTA starts to function again after a properly run PCT.
While using HCG your testes are tricked into producing test by the mimicking affect of your LH which stimulate Leydig cells in the testes to produce test which keeps them active and no atrophy. This also makes recovery easier cause they are active.

Most sources carry HCG. Read all the threads you can make some friends and everything will fall into place.

 

[ivomous]

When you inject exogenous test your natural production shuts down the testes go into hibernation and shrink up. They should get back to normal as your HPTA starts to function again after a properly run PCT.
While using HCG your testes are tricked into producing test by the mimicking affect of your LH which stimulate Leydig cells in the testes to produce test which keeps them active and no atrophy. This also makes recovery easier cause they are active.

Most sources carry HCG. Read all the threads you can make some friends and everything will fall into place.

Thanks a lot for the great help. I pretty quickly figured my source has hCG, so that's not an issue anymore. I guess I'll have to learn how to properly mix it and stuff.

Edit: Oh by the way, do you have any suggestion on hCG dosage for my particular cycle?

 

[hiram1st]

Thanks a lot for the great help. I pretty quickly figured my source has hCG, so that's not an issue anymore. I guess I'll have to learn how to properly mix it and stuff.

Edit: Oh by the way, do you have any suggestion on hCG dosage for my particular cycle?

How to mix it is in the link I posted. 250iu 2x a week is a recommended dose you can mix it with your test injection both in same pin to make it easier.

 

[ivomous]

How to mix it is in the link I posted. 250iu 2x a week is a recommended dose you can mix it with your test injection both in same pin to make it easier.

You're the man! Thanks, bro

 

[Southernfish]

Hiram gave you some good advice. And honestly the layout you have shown us looks pretty good. Look like you did some research. Noce to see for a change!!

 

[ivomous]

Hiram gave you some good advice. And honestly the layout you have shown us looks pretty good. Look like you did some research. Noce to see for a change!!

That's good to know. This is how it looks now:

Week 1 to 12 (Thursday of week 12)

Testosterone Enanthate 250mg (500mg per week (250mg Monday, 250mg Thursday))
250ui HCG 2x a week, taken with Test-E (Monday, Thursday)
Arimidex 0.25mg every other day till last injection.

15 DAYS (2 WEEKS PAUSE)

Friday of week 14 to 15 (PCT)

40mg Nolvadex every day
50mg Clomed every day

Week 15 to 16

20mg Nolvadex every day
50mg Clomed every day

As far as I know this should be what I need in order to stay safe and get the most out of my first cycle, right? I'm still a bit hesitant about the hCG. I know it's pretty beneficial, but I'm afraid I'm gonna mess up the mixing. If I understood correctly, I'll mix 5000ui hCG with 5ml bac water and I'll suck .25ml into the syringe for a 250ui dose, yes? If that's correct, how would I suck in the Test-E into that same syringe in order to shoot both simultaneously. Just standard procedure, but only difference being as I suck the Test-E into the syringe there's already .25ml of hCG in the syringe?

I know I'm asking somewhat obvious and annoying questions, but it's better to be safe than sorry imo.

Thanks for the help,
ivomous

 

[Southernfish]

Looks good but start your PCT 3 weeks after last injection. Run your AI up until you start PCT and HCG up until 3 days before you start PCT.

Lets say your HCG is 5000iu. If you put 1ml bac water in the vial then every mark on the syringe = 500iu. If you put 2ml bac water in the vial then every mark on the syringe = 250iu.

So, based on 2ml bac water in HCG vial...draw 1ml Test E(250mg) into syringe then just draw one little mark on the syringe of HCG. In total it will be 1.1 on the syringe. 1ml Test, .1ml HCG

 

[ivomous]

Looks good but start your PCT 3 weeks after last injection. Run your AI up until you start PCT and HCG up until 3 days before you start PCT.

Lets say your HCG is 5000iu. If you put 1ml bac water in the vial then every mark on the syringe = 500iu. If you put 2ml bac water in the vial then every mark on the syringe = 250iu.

So, based on 2ml bac water in HCG vial...draw 1ml Test E(250mg) into syringe then just draw one little mark on the syringe of HCG. In total it will be 1.1 on the syringe. 1ml Test, .1ml HCG

Tried sending you a PM, but seems like I don't have the rights to do so (yet?). So now that I've figured everything out, all I need to know is what kind of syringes (brand, size etc) and needles I need.

I understood that I'll draw .1ml from the syringe after I get 1ml of Test in it, but how exactly do I know what's .1ml on the syringe? I'll attach an image to use as an example.

Again thanks a lot for the help friend, really makes thing easier for me.

ivomous

Edit: I will be using 18gauge to draw and 23gauge 1.5 inch to inject the Test/hCG. When it comes to mixing the hCG, I heard something about insulin syringes..?

 

[Southernfish]

.1 is one mark on a normal 3ml syringe. About the slin needles and HCG.....this would only come into play if you decided to inject them separately and use a slin pin for the HCG.

18 to draw and 23 to pin sounds good! Some guys like to use 25 to pin but it takes way to long to push the oil through I find. You can even use 20g to draw it doesnt matter. 18 or 20 to draw 23 to pin will do you good.

 

[ivomous]

.1 is one mark on a normal 3ml syringe. About the slin needles and HCG.....this would only come into play if you decided to inject them separately and use a slin pin for the HCG.

18 to draw and 23 to pin sounds good! Some guys like to use 25 to pin but it takes way to long to push the oil through I find. You can even use 20g to draw it doesnt matter. 18 or 20 to draw 23 to pin will do you good.

Okay so I found 23gauge, but they only come in 1.25, not 1.5... Would I be as fine with 1.25 instead of 1.5? and for 18 this is what it says "18G x 2" Pink (1,25 x 50mm)" is that right?