Cycle thoughts & advice?

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Beefy93

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Hey everyone, I'm starting a cycle soon of Tren/test as a cutting cycle. I'd like to have some advice on which tren and test types to use, Thought about this so far.

Age : 20
weight : 86kg
Height : 180+/-
BF : aprox 22 %

This is gonna be my first cycle, I know that tren can be harsh but its what i've read and its what I feel that I really want to do. Thought about tren only at first but research has made me put some test in there aswell.

wk 1-12 test E 250 twice a week ( monday, thursday)
wk 1-10 Tren E 200 once a week (monday)

10-14 Clomid 100/100/75/50 as PCT,
also doign some research right now about aromasin during the cycle.
1-10 aromasin dosage (not sure yet!) 8 MG ED through out the cycle
1-16 aromasin 12 MG ED

What do ya think of this ?
Are the doses alright?
Would you change anything with it? if so What? been thinking about Tren Ace too, is that better to use ? the needles are not my problem.
been reading around that Tren Ace at 50, 75 and 100 EOD. how is that?

Thanks alot for reading and thanks for the upcoming replies!
 
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Sorry forgot to hand that in, Its going to be my first cycle, after some research ive come to my mind that I think this is the cycle i'd enjoy the most and get the best results from.
 
Your to young to be using AAS. Also, first cycles should be testosterone only. Tren is very powerful with alot if sides. See how your body reacts to just testosterone first if your dead set on a cycle.
 
Take bigdippins advice man you are young and I almost certain you haven't met your natural potential yet, that being said dont run tren on a first cycle you won't be able to judge what is causing sides if some do occur. Your probably looking for quick gains with something like that bing a first cycle trust the guys here run just test train hard and eat properly you will get the gains your looking for.
 
bigdippin said:
Your to young to be using AAS. Also, first cycles should be testosterone only. Tren is very powerful with alot if sides. See how your body reacts to just testosterone first if your dead set on a cycle.
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Im probably going to sound like a dick but I've really set my mind for this cycle now :s i've read so much about tren that i got an urge to try it myself. I could change to tren Ace so incase the sides become to bad i could just end it and it'd be gone in a few days.
What if i start out for 2-3 weeks with test only and then add tren at example week 3? or will the cycle lenght become too long?
 
Beefy93 said:
Im probably going to sound like a dick but I've really set my mind for this cycle now :s i've read so much about tren that i got an urge to try it myself. I could change to tren Ace so incase the sides become to bad i could just end it and it'd be gone in a few days.
What if i start out for 2-3 weeks with test only and then add tren at example week 3? or will the cycle lenght become too long?
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If your dead set on it, I wish you well and hope it works out for you. Use tren ace, more frequent injections and have a good liver support. Nac is good. Tren will effect your liver enzymes. Also, make sure you pct is on point. Try to get bloodwork before during and after to see how you rebound after the cycle.
 
Yea u sound like a dick! Why even ask when you know nobody will cosign that shit and then say your doing it anyway. Lemme guess zyzz id your idol?
 
bigkit34 said:
Yea u sound like a dick! Why even ask when you know nobody will cosign that shit and then say your doing it anyway. Lemme guess zyzz id your idol?
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actually defo not my idol, ive just been reading about this for a long time, and ive been set to do a tren/test cycle, just asking for TIPS, ADVICE etc on that cycle, wether to add or change some PCT, or change which types of test /tren to use.
 
bigdippin said:
If your dead set on it, I wish you well and hope it works out for you. Use tren ace, more frequent injections and have a good liver support. Nac is good. Tren will effect your liver enzymes. Also, make sure you pct is on point. Try to get bloodwork before during and after to see how you rebound after the cycle.
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First of all, thanks for still trying to help me being positiv. Do you think clomid / aromasin would be enough for PCT or would you add some nolva in ?
NAC is for the liver protection right? What dosage of it do you use?
 
First of all at 22% bf you have absolutely no business cycling. Just from that I am going to guess that your diet is horridly off point. That being said you are going to waste your time running this cycle. Yes, Tren does help with fat loss, however it is still your diet that will shed that spare tire off. Also at 20 years old it is too early to run even a simple testosterone only cycle but you are jumping straight into Tren?!?!

Please reconsider. If not I wish you the best of luck.

PS consider something for prolactin control. Lactating pecs is not something women want in a man.
 
First of all at 22% bf you have absolutely no business cycling. Just from that I am going to guess that your diet is horridly off point. That being said you are going to waste your time running this cycle. Yes, Tren does help with fat loss, however it is still your diet that will shed that spare tire off. Also at 20 years old it is too early to run even a simple testosterone only cycle but you are jumping straight into Tren?!?!

Please reconsider. If not I wish you the best of luck.

PS consider something for prolactin control. Lactating pecs is not something women want in a man.
 
Beefy93 said:
actually defo not my idol, ive just been reading about this for a long time, and ive been set to do a tren/test cycle, just asking for TIPS, ADVICE etc on that cycle, wether to add or change some PCT, or change which types of test /tren to use.
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Our tips and advice are yout not ready for that cycle. You said straightup that you dont care your gonna do it anyway. Learn how to eat and train right and come back in 5 years
 
Yeah, don't start this thread and then completely ignore all advice. Tren for a first cycle is retarded. Do you really think you are ready for the nectar of the Gods?? I don't fucking think so!! But since you come on here and ignore all advice, I will point something out for you.......

1. You are fat dude. 22% is way too high to be cycling. I can promise you that you don't know what you are doing in the kitchen and the same probably goes for your training. I wouldn't be above 15% and cycle.

2. You are too young. You are 20 years old. You theoretically should be enjoying your decent testosterone level at your age, instead by stating you are 22% body fat, it looks to me that you are looking for a short cut.

3. If you have done any amount of research, there is good reason why we tell guys to stick to testosterone only for a first cycle. Testosterone only should be plenty for you to achieve your results (which hopefully isn't to get any fatter). See how your body reacts to testosterone. Some guys get really bad sides on tren and if you are taking both and getting some bad sides, how will you pin point which is doing what for you??

4. Assuming you have read so much on Tren, you choose to run the long ester version of tren first?? Again, any retard who has researched would know that tren ace is what a first time user should take.

5. You are only going to run 200 mg per week of Tren E and only run this long estered version for 10 weeks?? Makes zero sense.

6. You are planning on running your test E for 12 weeks and starting PCT of clomid on week 10??? Again, fucking retarded.

7. You don't have any idea how to control prolactin from a 19-nor steroid like tren.

8. You are planning on running aromasin for 16 weeks which means all the way through your PCT and 2 weeks after PCT?? Again, fucking retarded.

9. No mention of HCG.

10. You realize you are supposed to start your PCT around 2 weeks after your last test shot right?? Clueless here.

Cliffnotes...........In summary, you have not done your research and have zero clue what you are doing. You say you are dead set on taking one of the most harsh compounds out there and yet have no clue how to take it. Seems to me like you have just been reading all the positives from people using tren and not the negatives. Normally I would detail a good test/tren cycle for you but I refuse to because you don't listen to advice. No one is saying to never run tren. People are saying to NOT run it as a first cycle. Why is that so hard for you to understand?? I promise if you got your diet and training in check, you could get some more gains naturally. Please don't act like superman and think that you are invincible. I will laugh when I see another thread started by you in a few months saying your titties hurt and you can't get a hard on to save your life. Look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself........Am I ready for the nectar of the Gods??? Fuck no you're not!!
 
riprockwell said:
Yeah, don't start this thread and then completely ignore all advice. Tren for a first cycle is retarded. Do you really think you are ready for the nectar of the Gods?? I don't fucking think so!! But since you come on here and ignore all advice, I will point something out for you.......

1. You are fat dude. 22% is way too high to be cycling. I can promise you that you don't know what you are doing in the kitchen and the same probably goes for your training. I wouldn't be above 15% and cycle.

2. You are too young. You are 20 years old. You theoretically should be enjoying your decent testosterone level at your age, instead by stating you are 22% body fat, it looks to me that you are looking for a short cut.

3. If you have done any amount of research, there is good reason why we tell guys to stick to testosterone only for a first cycle. Testosterone only should be plenty for you to achieve your results (which hopefully isn't to get any fatter). See how your body reacts to testosterone. Some guys get really bad sides on tren and if you are taking both and getting some bad sides, how will you pin point which is doing what for you??

4. Assuming you have read so much on Tren, you choose to run the long ester version of tren first?? Again, any retard who has researched would know that tren ace is what a first time user should take.

5. You are only going to run 200 mg per week of Tren E and only run this long estered version for 10 weeks?? Makes zero sense.

6. You are planning on running your test E for 12 weeks and starting post cycle therapy (pct) of clomid on week 10??? Again, fucking retarded.

7. You don't have any idea how to control prolactin from a 19-nor steroid like tren.

8. You are planning on running aromasin for 16 weeks which means all the way through your post cycle therapy (pct) and 2 weeks after post cycle therapy (pct)?? Again, fucking retarded.

9. No mention of HCG.

10. You realize you are supposed to start your post cycle therapy (pct) around 2 weeks after your last test shot right?? Clueless here.

Cliffnotes...........In summary, you have not done your research and have zero clue what you are doing. You say you are dead set on taking one of the most harsh compounds out there and yet have no clue how to take it. Seems to me like you have just been reading all the positives from people using tren and not the negatives. Normally I would detail a good test/tren cycle for you but I refuse to because you don't listen to advice. No one is saying to never run tren. People are saying to NOT run it as a first cycle. Why is that so hard for you to understand?? I promise if you got your diet and training in check, you could get some more gains naturally. Please don't act like superman and think that you are invincible. I will laugh when I see another thread started by you in a few months saying your titties hurt and you can't get a hard on to save your life. Look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself........Am I ready for the nectar of the Gods??? Fuck no you're not!!
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1-10 Test Prop 50 mg EOD
1-10 Tren Ace 1 ml / week
1-10 Mast E 600 mg/week

1-12 Aromasin 6.25 mg ED
1-12 Caber .25 mg EOD

1-8 HCGenerate
1-12 N2Guard

post cycle therapy (pct):

9-10 HCG 250 iu EOD
11-12 HCG 500 iu EOD

13-16 Clomid 25/25/25/25
13-16 Forma Stanzol, 5 pumps twice per day
13-16 Unleashed
13-16 D-AA 3gs pre workout.

I have been doing a lot of work and have gotten some help to change the cycle, thats what i got atm. Thats what ive been wroking on when it comes to tren / test.

If i chose to step away from Tren then i'll most likely do a test only.
 
Ok so you changed the cycle and ignored all of Rip's other points especially about age, training, and diet not too mention the fact you're starting at a high bodyfat predisposes you towards experiencing more side effects.
 
Haha D-AA in a pct...that made me lol and that's a strong indication that you should not cycle. That and everything else wrong with your cycle, stats and probably diet too.
Even if you were 25 I'd still tell you to wait. Tren is for experienced users and lifters. You are neither.
 
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