Daily SubQ shots of Cyp with Insulin pin.

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volumnus

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I'm going to give it a shot and see how it turns out. Ideally I would have Cyp that is twice as potent, 200mg per ml, but my insurance company's pharmacy sends me mine, and it's only 100mg per ml. At any rate, I will be using 20 ius or .20 ml every morning. This equals 140mg weekly.

Since it's super hard to suck cyp into an insulin syringe, I will be taking the plunger out and injecting directly into the back of the insulin syringe with a larger 20 gauge needle. I will fill a week's worth of insulin syringes at a time to avoid poking so many holes in the test vial.

I switched from two tubes of Testim gel daily to weekly injections. Sexually I'm not as potent as before with Testim. A lot of people have claimed that smaller, daily injections improve sexual function. I will report on my experience.

Also, I'm in my mid-thirties. I will be on HRT for the rest of my life. All those IM needle sticks in my butt over time scare me.
 
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Once or twice a week isn't a ton of shots, and things like shoulders are easy to throw in. Plus a nice 25g needle is pretty thin!

Either way, be interesting to see how your levels turn out and such. ED shots don't sound too much fun in a localized, SubQ area either...
 
Seems to be working well.

I'm injecting subq three times a week.

Monday-Wednesday-Friday

I stopped injecting every day because I didn't want to inject Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on the same day as I inject test, so I decided to inject test every other day. I'm doing 300ius of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) every Tues, Thurs, and Sat. I have stopped arimidex altogether for now. I've also added 25mg of DHEA twice a day. I believe a lot of my problem with loss of libido had to do with my E2 being too low after using adex at 25mg every other day. I had no wood at all after a couple of weeks on the Adex. Now I'm back with a vengeance.
 
volumnus said:
I'm injecting subq three times a week.

Monday-Wednesday-Friday

I stopped injecting every day because I didn't want to inject Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on the same day as I inject test, so I decided to inject test every other day. I'm doing 300ius of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) every Tues, Thurs, and Sat. I have stopped arimidex altogether for now. I've also added 25mg of DHEA twice a day. I believe a lot of my problem with loss of libido had to do with my E2 being too low after using adex at 25mg every other day. I had no wood at all after a couple of weeks on the Adex. Now I'm back with a vengeance.
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Are those subq shots causing any bruising?
25mg of Adex? Dont you mean 1mg of adex or do you mean aromasin?

What type of Testosterone are you shooting and how much at one time subq?

Why not just use less Aromatase inhibitor (AI) rather then dropping it completely?
 
Here's the deal...

As for the Adex, I was splitting a 1mg pill into fourths and taking .25mg EOD, but even that miniscule amount caused me to lose morning wood and feel like I hadn't had any test at all. I have never had sensitive nipples or any gyno issues, but then, I only use test for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) purposes, not for body building or anything, although I work out four or five times a week.

I was on two tubes of Testim per day for a year. I had rotator cuff surgery recently. I could not apply it. I switched to weekly Cyp shots at 100mg instead. I did a lot of research here and other places. I basically followed Dr. Chrysler's protocol. I started 250 ius of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) twice a week and .25mg of Adex every other day to control E2. While on Testim, I never used either of these in conjunction with TRT. At first it was great. Then I needed more and more test to feel good. I upped my cyp dose to 125mg per week and then 150mg per week, but if anything, I was getting worse. I did more research and concluded my symptoms sounded like low E2. I cycled back on the total amount of test. I'm doing 120 mgs a week now divided by three. I inject .40 ml's at a time with an insulin syringe three times a week. I have never had any bruising, red spots, or anything. It's exactly like injecting HCG. I use the same type syringes. The only difference is the plunger is a little harder to press. I inject into my glutes, my delts, my stomach, my outer thighs, wherever. If I hit a muscle so be it. If I don't...no big deal.

Oh yeah...It would be a royal pain to try to draw cyp out of the vial with an insulin pin, not to mention it would dull the needle, so I remove the stoppers from a handful of insulin pins. Then I draw the cyp from the vial with a 20 gauge syringe. I inject the cyp into the back of the insulin pins, being very careful not to touch the stoppers on anything. I can fill up 12 pins, or a month's supply of test, in a couple of minutes this way.

I really think that subq will be the wave of the future. I'm to the point where I can't feel the insulin pins at all. The easiest thing in my opinion would be to fill up a month's supply of slin pins with cyp and inject every morning after you brush your teeth, but Dr. Chrysler doesn't like his clients to inject Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on the same day they inject test. He also doesn't endorse subq test injections, but it's working perfectly for me.
I was worried about a lifetime of intramuscular puncture wounds plus I was suffering from low libido. I'm only in my mid thirties. I suspect I'll be pinning the rest of my days. I figure a few insulin syringe sticks a week won't be as traumatizing as weekly or bi-weekly IM injections, and since it works just as well (for me even better), it's a no brainer.
 
have you had your test levels checked since you started the subq injects?... if this is legit it could be huge for primobolan cycles..
 
In its early days...

HRT consisted of a monthly 400mg shot. Some doctor's still practice this primitive approach. Injecting 400mg subcutaneously simply wouldn't work. A painful lump would result, so intramuscular injection became the accepted delivery method. Doctors gradually began to realize that injecting smaller doses more frequently led to better results. With this newer approach, the volume of testosterone that patients inject weekly, bi-weekly, or even every other day is no longer prohibitive of subcutaneous injection.

For example, if you inject three times a week with 200mg/ml test, you would only need to shoot .25 ml at a time to reach 150mg per week. .25ml is not a lot of volume to shoot under the skin. It dissipates without any pain, swelling, or redness in my experience. I actually shoot .4ml under the skin, since my insurance only pays for less concentrated 100mg/ml test, but I've still had no problems at all.
 
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I may give this a try.

I tried shooting AAS subq once and it didnt turn out all that well. I shot a winstrol/anavar blend .5ml subq and I had a knot in my stomach for months.

I did some research before hand and found some people that had success with it. I did not...
 
If you want to shoot more than .5ml...

break up the dose and inject in two different places. I've heard Dr. Shippen, the original guru before Chrysler came along, currently injects himself with two 40ml shots, one in each side of the belly, twice a week. Let us know how it turns out. I suspect you'll be fine.
 
ythrashin said:
I may give this a try.

I tried shooting AAS subq once and it didnt turn out all that well. I shot a winstrol/anavar blend .5ml subq and I had a knot in my stomach for months.

I did some research before hand and found some people that had success with it. I did not...
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when you go for it please let us know the outcome..
 
Interesting - now this would be great - i do hgh daily and i just ad the test to the insulin needle. I gotta know what happens - please keep bumping this thread or lets get it up as a sticky while its going on - everyone wants to know
 
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