DNP Cycle Log - Second Cycle (Feedback from Experienced DNPers Appreciated)

[mickey224]

DNP: 2nd and 3rd Cycle Log (Feedback from Experienced DNPers Appreciated) UPDATED!

38, male, 5' 5.5", 157.5lbs.

My first cycle (completed) I took Dinitro's crystal DNP and 25mcg T3 every day:
Days 1-5: 250mg
Days 5-12 500mg (250mg twice a day)

I started off at 157 lbs and was at 149.5 five days after my last DNP dose. A difference of 7.5 pounds over 12 days. I did not follow a particular diet and did no exercise.

Second cycle (ongoing) started October 19 (no T3), starting off at 150.5 lbs:
Days 1-10: 250mg morning, and 500mg bedtime. I am currently finishing Day 3. I am not taking T3 but I do not feel exhausted at all, which is contrary to the literature on the topic.

Furthermore, I'm starting to wonder whether the DNP is underdosed, because I am getting very little side effects. Any sweating is very mild, but it is between 8-11 degrees Celsius outside and I leave my windows open during the night so I have little discomfort. Can anyone offer any explanation as to why the side effects are so mild? Can I do exercise at the same time? The only other side effect I have is that my semen is yellowish.

My goal is different than most of you here. My ideal is a slim physique with an average amount of muscle. I'm not a bodybuilder- but I'm reasonably fit and I would like to be 29" again (I'm now 31" waist) so I don't have to buy a whole new wardrobe! My weight from age 30-36 was 135lbs. I'd like to be between 136-142 again (i.e. lose 10-15 pounds of fat).

Third cycle (ongoing) started Feb 23, 2014 (no T3), starting off at 142 lbs:

Did 11 days. Got gastro on the last day and had to stop. Am now at 135lb.

 

[DD55]

It's too bad you couldn't cut the weight by fat burners and t3 only. Or maybe even Clen. DNP is poison and you shouldn't put that crap in your body. 150 pounds?!? I weighed 150 pounds in grade nine...(!) be safe about this. Maybe hit up 3J for a diet and cardio plan. He gets people shredded. Sorry I can't say anything about DNP. I've read too much negative stuff about it to ever support its use. Good luck losing those final pounds.

 

[ajntorinj]

It's too bad you couldn't cut the weight by fat burners and t3 only. Or maybe even Clen. DNP is poison and you shouldn't put that crap in your body. 150 pounds?!? I weighed 150 pounds in grade nine...(!) be safe about this. Maybe hit up 3J for a diet and cardio plan. He gets people shredded. Sorry I can't say anything about DNP. I've read too much negative stuff about it to ever support its use. Good luck losing those final pounds.

DD55 is right; it is too bad OP did something DD55 does not approve of. OP, please get approval for any plans, weight loss or otherwise, in the future. In the meantime, say five "Hail Mary"s and five "Our Father"s.

I have also read many negative things, not just about DNP, but about exogenous steroid use too. That is why I stopped my testosterone replacement therapy. I feel like shit and want to kill myself, but at least I am doing right in the eyes of others.

 

[DreDay187]

It's too bad you couldn't cut the weight by fat burners and t3 only. Or maybe even Clen. DNP is poison and you shouldn't put that crap in your body. 150 pounds?!? I weighed 150 pounds in grade nine...(!) be safe about this. Maybe hit up 3J for a diet and cardio plan. He gets people shredded. Sorry I can't say anything about DNP. I've read too much negative stuff about it to ever support its use. Good luck losing those final pounds.

"Everything is a poison, the dose differentiates a poison from a remedy" - Paracelsus

 

[mickey224]

Well I had a hot sweaty night, which was greatly mitigated by keeping my windows open (7 degrees outside). I had a crazy ice cream binge and ate 7 ice cream bars in 2 hours. Totally guilty here. I'm going to have to go grocery shopping and buy some low-cal fruits and veggies to snack on.

And I went from 150.7 to 149.7, one pound less than last night.

 

[ajntorinj]

Mickey, I am at nearly the same point as you but in my first cycle. I made my own caps at 100mg, so I started at 200mg and moved to 300mg today as there was no allergic reaction and I am tolerating the drug well, though I soak my sheets like an enuretic despite leaving the windows open.

You are not feeling anything major because the dose is low and the drug is building up in your system. This can happen quickly, since the drug has a 36-hour half-life (250 today plus >125 from yesterday plus > 62.5 from the day before). You could alternate your daily dose from 1 cap to 2 to practice caution instead of doubling the daily dose.

Personally, I am exercising as I regularly do, but I am closely paying attention to how I feel and adjusting any intensity based on vitals. I went into this with the understanding that I need to be prepared to drop both strenuous activity and DNP if necessary instead of being a tough guy so I can brag about my cycle on the Internet.

I have read that green tea (EGCG) effectively blunts sugar cravings, so you may want to try it if it prevents a self-sabotage.

 

[mickey224]

Mickey, I am at nearly the same point as you but in my first cycle. I made my own caps at 100mg, so I started at 200mg and moved to 300mg today as there was no allergic reaction and I am tolerating the drug well, though I soak my sheets like an enuretic despite leaving the windows open.

You are not feeling anything major because the dose is low and the drug is building up in your system. This can happen quickly, since the drug has a 36-hour half-life (250 today plus >125 from yesterday plus > 62.5 from the day before). You could alternate your daily dose from 1 cap to 2 to practice caution instead of doubling the daily dose.

Personally, I am exercising as I regularly do, but I am closely paying attention to how I feel and adjusting any intensity based on vitals. I went into this with the understanding that I need to be prepared to drop both strenuous activity and DNP if necessary instead of being a tough guy so I can brag about my cycle on the Internet.

I have read that green tea (EGCG) effectively blunts sugar cravings, so you may want to try it if it prevents a self-sabotage.

Well I am on my fourth day of 250mg morning and 500 nighttime, so wouldn't the effects have had their maximum effect by now? Or will it hit me after 36 hours?

I read everything available on DNP before deciding to use it. I'm using Dinitro's DNP crystal- and I've read that crystal hits harder and lasts less time than powder. Most reviewers say that the best time to take DNP is during winter because the cold makes the DNP easy to tolerate. And it's true- for example, it is 9C outside and I was just walking around comfortably in a tshirt.

I'm hoping to find ways to decrease my hunger pangs- maybe by having protein shakes every day and night. I can't take green tea because I'm caffeine-intolerant.

 

[DipKing]

Man..sounds like taking it sucks! I don't know how else you could get under 150 lbs without signing up for a concentration camp though. Stay safe and good luck with what you're doing.

 

[ajntorinj]

Well I am on my fourth day of 250mg morning and 500 nighttime, so wouldn't the effects have had their maximum effect by now? Or will it hit me after 36 hours?

You say in the original post you are on 250mg qd, and now you say you are taking 750mg. I am confused.

Half-life refers to how much of chemical is metabolized in a period of time, not how soon it affects you. The drug is exerting its effects that entire time it is in your system.

 

[TheDarkHalf]

I would love to see before and afters!

 

[mickey224]

Man..sounds like taking it sucks! I don't know how else you could get under 150 lbs without signing up for a concentration camp though. Stay safe and good luck with what you're doing.

Man- your comments are quite ignorant and you read it wrong. I have hardly any side effects compared to what I've read, and I'm on a fairly high dose. Your weight comment also makes no sense. My average healthy weight for 36 years was between 132-136lbs- I was toned and looked great. I am only 5'5.5" and small-boned. As I have stated clearly, I am not a bodybuilder and I have different goals: slim/lean physique.

You say in the original post you are on 250mg qd, and now you say you are taking 750mg. I am confused.

Half-life refers to how much of chemical is metabolized in a period of time, not how soon it affects you. The drug is exerting its effects that entire time it is in your system.

Read it carefully. You are referring to my first cycle. I'm currently on my second cycle. I am taking crystal 250mg morning and 500mg evening.

I would love to see before and afters!

I would but, as I've stated, I'm not a bodybuilder and I'm not interested in being judged by guys whose only interest is in big muscle.

 

[DipKing]

Man- your comments are quite ignorant and you read it wrong. I have hardly any side effects compared to what I've read, and I'm on a fairly high dose. Your weight comment also makes no sense. My average healthy weight for 36 years was between 132-136lbs- I was toned and looked great. I am only 5'5.5" and small-boned. As I have stated clearly, I am not a bodybuilder and I have different goals: slim/lean physique.

That's not what I meant. You said you're wearing just a t shirt in 9 C weather and feel comfortable and have had sweaty nights. Just sounds uncomfortable to me.

 

[mickey224]

That's not what I meant. You said you're wearing just a t shirt in 9 C weather and feel comfortable and have had sweaty nights. Just sounds uncomfortable to me.

That's just it- it is easy to deal with or eliminate the side effects when you take it in cold weather. I would not do DNP during the summer.

 

[mickey224]

Mickey, I am at nearly the same point as you but in my first cycle. I made my own caps at 100mg, so I started at 200mg and moved to 300mg today as there was no allergic reaction and I am tolerating the drug well, though I soak my sheets like an enuretic despite leaving the windows open.

Do you have any comments on morning versus night-time dose? Does it still burn fat while we're sleeping? The only reason why I take the 500mg at night is because the outside temperature drops during the night, making the side effects much less.

 

[ajntorinj]

Why did you start with 750mg qd when you got great results with 250mg eased into 500mg qd?

Is the DNP you are using now a different batch from the first time? This matters even if the source is the same.

 

[ajntorinj]

Do you have any comments on morning versus night-time dose? Does it still burn fat while we're sleeping? The only reason why I take the 500mg at night is because the outside temperature drops during the night, making the side effects much less.

It burns calories the entire time it is in your system. However, I would not dose it at night if you are increasing the dose. Suppose you had a negative reaction to the higher dose in your sleep. How would you know? How could you take action if a negative side arose? What if you vomited in your sleep, etc.? The effect overnight will be marginally stronger if you were to dose it all at before bed (36 half-life means little difference in effect between morning and evening dosing), but safety lies in monitoring how you react.

 

[DreDay187]

It burns calories the entire time it is in your system. However, I would not dose it at night if you are increasing the dose. Suppose you had a negative reaction to the higher dose in your sleep. How would you know? How could you take action if a negative side arose? What if you vomited in your sleep, etc.? The effect overnight will be marginally stronger if you were to dose it all at before bed (36 half-life means little difference in effect between morning and evening dosing), but safety lies in monitoring how you react.

Well put. Without monitoring (and being awake to monitor) safety cannot be assessed and safety isn't something you want to slack on with DNP

 

[mickey224]

Why did you start with 750mg qd when you got great results with 250mg eased into 500mg qd?

Is the DNP you are using now a different batch from the first time? This matters even if the source is the same.

I am upping the dose from last time because: 1) how few side effects I got during my first cycle at night, 2) the fact that the temperature is dropping to between 5-10C during the night. I can just leave the window open and my symptoms are mild or non-existent. I was not too pleased with the results from the first cycle- I lost 6lb of fat and 2lb of muscle over 11 days. I am hoping that removing the T3 from the equation may produce less catabolic effects.

Yes I am using the same DNP as last time.

It burns calories the entire time it is in your system. However, I would not dose it at night if you are increasing the dose. Suppose you had a negative reaction to the higher dose in your sleep. How would you know? How could you take action if a negative side arose? What if you vomited in your sleep, etc.? The effect overnight will be marginally stronger if you were to dose it all at before bed (36 half-life means little difference in effect between morning and evening dosing), but safety lies in monitoring how you react.

I have a lower body temperature than average. Last night I tested my resting body temperature every 3 hours and it did not reach higher than 98.4F. This is with my windows open and an outside temperature of 5-10C.

I experienced very mild heat from the 250mg night-time dose during my first cycle of ten days. But nothing like the sopping wet, sweaty mess that many of you have experienced. Therefore, I thought it would be safe to try 500mg at night, especially considering the drop in outside temperature.

 

[3J]

jesus if i had the power to i would ban every single person who ever mentioned dnp... that stuff is so dangerous

 

[mickey224]

The effect overnight will be marginally stronger if you were to dose it all at before bed (36 half-life means little difference in effect between morning and evening dosing), but safety lies in monitoring how you react.

I wonder if your example is accurate for powder DNP but not for crystal DNP. Most of the information available and reviews indicate that crystal kick in faster, harder and has a shorter duration of effect. If anyone can provide any scientific data about this, it would be greatly appreciated.

The other bizarre thing is that I don't feel that "exhausted" feeling from T3 depletion. Maybe it is because I am also taking 18mg Concerta (12 hour Ritalin). People have commented about Dinitro's caps feeling underdosed, but other say that his is more pure and therefore has less side effects...