DD55
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No need to be a douche. I was just expressing that he should take care and maybe look for alternative ways to lose those last few pounds.
Go nuts with dnp. Have at it! Enjoy! Your body will thank you!
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No need to be a douche. I was just expressing that he should take care and maybe look for alternative ways to lose those last few pounds.
Go nuts with dnp. Have at it! Enjoy! Your body will thank you!
3J
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i really think your an idiot bro... dont take offense to it.. i know you wanted to take the magic pill way out of losing some weight like a bitch instead of maning up, cleaning up your diet, and doing some fucking cardio...
hummm... let me see.. put poison in your system to lose weight, or lose weight by eating clean and being active
seriously... shut your trap... u know how many people have ended up in the hospital or dead due to dnp poisoning?? your 150 fucking pounds if anything you have a hard time gaining weight not losing it!!
get over yourself bro... people are in here telling you dnp is bad for a reason.. they worry about your well being..
DD55
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Fun fact!
"Commercial DNP is primarily used for scientific research and in manufacturing. It has been used at times to make dyes, other organic chemicals, and wood preservatives. DNP is a chemical intermediate in the production of some herbicides including dinoseb and dinoterb. It has also been used to make photographic developer and explosives."
I wonder if dnp is found naturally in the body as test is? Hm. Guess that Moronic post about getting off testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is pretty moot, huh?
"Commercial DNP is primarily used for scientific research and in manufacturing. It has been used at times to make dyes, other organic chemicals, and wood preservatives. DNP is a chemical intermediate in the production of some herbicides including dinoseb and dinoterb. It has also been used to make photographic developer and explosives."
I wonder if dnp is found naturally in the body as test is? Hm. Guess that Moronic post about getting off testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is pretty moot, huh?
Some more fun facts:
1) mushrooms are toxins. Does anyone out mushrooms on their pizza or eat them in their cooking?
2) castor oil is a poison. Did you know that castor oil, an over the counter laxative, is made from the castor bean? Did you also know that same castor bean can kill a man and it takes 4 to kill an elephant. Do you further know that this same castor bean, where the OTC laxative comes from, is where ricin comes from...yes the chemical and biological weapon ricin.
3) almonds are poisonous. Did you know almonds must be processed before sale because are full of cyanide? Yes the deadly stuff. Some countries even allow the sale of unprocessed almonds.
4) cherries are poisonous. Do you eat cherries? Ever accidentally swallowed the pit or but it and damaged it in any way? Better be careful because when the seeds are crushed, chewed, slightly injured, or swallowed they produce Prussic acid aka hydrogen cyanide.
5) apples are poisonous. An apple a day keeps the doctor away...or maybe leads to an early death! You can eat enough apple seeds to kill yourself it's true. Apple seeds contain more of that yummy hydrogen cyanide.
6) have you ever indulged in rhubarb puddings or pies? Tastes good right? Well besides having an UNKNOWN poison in its leaves it also has corrosive acid in there as well.
7) tomatoes are grown from poison. Most people eat tomatoes right? Good for you with all that lycopene (antioxidant) and tastes great in the form of ketchup on burgers. Well the stems and leaves of the tomato plant carry a chemical called glycoalkloid. Common side effects of glycoalkloid: extreme nervousness and upset stomach.
8) potatoes are serial killers. We all love potatoes but who knew they were bad for you (besides those low carb bigots) and there's more to worry about than just gain fat off those pesky carbs! Potato plant leaves and stems contain glycoalkloid poison. Yes the same as the tomato killer.
^^^^did you know all the things in the above list have killed more people than DNP? Yes, potatoes have killed more people in the last 80+yrs since DNP's existence.
DD55
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Whatever, dre. I get your point that everything can be a poison in one way or another. Rally around dnp use all you want, enjoy. There is a point where it's just an irresponsible choice when there are other ways to cut the weight that aren't as dangerous. The op wants to do nothing but take dnp and drop weight. Irresponsible. Bodybuilders may take it to get their shred to the next level, but like winstrol, the layman best just leave the things alone. But mostly I bet 3J could do it without taking anything so dangerous. Have at the dnp. Natural selection is awesome.
DipKing
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I'm not here to flame you brother, seriously. I'm just trying to make a point. So long as it's cycled smartly it can be cycled relatively safely. Man elope have experienced positive results and Lyle McDonald has tried it. I'm not telling you to go use it, I'm just saying it's no more dangerous than using slin if you research the topic enough.
I'M not rallying around anything. I've never used DNP before. I probably don't plan on trying it either but I respect a grown man's choice to do his homework and run it if he wants. I partake in certain medicinal "herbal" supplements all the time and hate it when Uncle Sam looks at me as a criminal.
Where you draw the point of irresponsible vs responsible is your choice, not everyone else's. If it's irresponsible to use it bc there are other ways to cut weight that aren't dangerous than NOBODY under ~220lbs is a responsible AAS user bc there were also MUCH MUCH safer ways of getting up to at least 220lbs depending on height. Where did you read that "OP wants but take DNP and drop the weight"? Certainly not in this thread.
Wh would you put a bodybuilder's goals on a pedestal and justify them doing what you consider a poison to reach their goals? Is it only ok for body builders to use poisons? Are body builder goals more important than OP's goals? Who are you to make that distinction for him? The guy obviously has done some homework on DNP so you and I are the only laymen in here with DNP. We both haven't used it. I bet 3J could very well do it without anything remotely as dangerous and I'd always advise OP to go the 3J route first and foremost, but I don't make decisions for OP. If he wants to contact 3J, his email is in his sig and he'll get the same exact fat loss results with less risk.
You complained someone was being a douche to you and now you return the favor? Don start flaming for no reason.
It is a great quote. It's from the father/founder of the entire study of toxicology. I bet he'd know a thing or two about poisons
Lmao, yes Dip, exactly like mudbutt!
I know your views on DNP 3J, and I respect them. Mine are slightly different as is obvious here lol but as I said, I'd always recommend someone run a structured diet, especially one of yours, before resorting to ANY CUTTING compound. So long as research is done though it can be ran safely. How many people die from insulin/glucose/diabetes each year yet we still fuck with slin and HGH. We do so knowing those can kill us just as dead as DNP would.
DD55
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Re: responsible versus irresponsible use.
Good point, it's wholly subjective. It is irresponsible to leap to the most powerful, most dangerous, method before exhausting all the other methods. I doubt he dieted, tried Clen, or t3, or t4, etc. Those could be dangerous too, but at least he would exhaust all options. Look. I agree that we all have free choice. I cannot argue against that at all, certainly. I was cautioning against it and trying to look out for a brother. The second post pissed me off because I was totally sincere and the guy was just mocking.
My comment about natural selection? Yeah, it was douchely. I may have been speaking in general terms and NOT about you though. Mankind does many many illogical things and dnp rates up there.
Good point, it's wholly subjective. It is irresponsible to leap to the most powerful, most dangerous, method before exhausting all the other methods. I doubt he dieted, tried Clen, or t3, or t4, etc. Those could be dangerous too, but at least he would exhaust all options. Look. I agree that we all have free choice. I cannot argue against that at all, certainly. I was cautioning against it and trying to look out for a brother. The second post pissed me off because I was totally sincere and the guy was just mocking.
My comment about natural selection? Yeah, it was douchely. I may have been speaking in general terms and NOT about you though. Mankind does many many illogical things and dnp rates up there.
Ok but now we're making assumptions brother. Either way, like I said, I personally would have tried a different path but I will respect his decision if he does it wisely. Maybe we can steer him towards a good diet instead lol
I've never seen that with DNP brother, never even seen DNP period lol, but I have seen worse compounds and condoned worse.
Not a lawyer lol. I'm on a smartphone myself. Champion of that same free choice this country was founded on and that soldiers die protecting every day ...that free choice?
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3J
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i cant think of a worse compound in the bodybuilding world... even tren has less risks imo...
but yea, i have seen it.. and its ugly.. its literally a poison to the human body.. yea.. compounds like deca and tren are hepatoxic.. yea they fuck you up.. but they wont kill you with a single dose like dnp can..
its just my opinion.. through my experiences.. i know your all about freedom of choice but there are some compounds that wouldn't be accepted in the world.. shit think about meth, heroin, crack/cocaine.. those drugs are all horrible for you..
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