Do I need Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or will my nolva cover this...

[HeHammer]

Do I need hcg or will my nolva cover this...

Hey guys, finishing up my 4th wk on my 10wk Sustanon (sust) 325, 12wk primo cycle, everything is going great, already gained 10lbs of lean muscle.
However i noticed recently that my testicles have risen up a bit, not too much, but they definitely came up. Will my nolva cover this issue when I run my pct? Or do I need Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or something else for this? The size of "my boys" haven't gotten much smaller, at least I cant notice any significant difference.

I am taking 400mg/wk primo and 200mg/wk susta.

Any help/input would be much appreciated.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

HCG is required to restore/maintain testicular size, you should be running 250iu every 4 to 5 days throughout your cycle.

Size will eventually come back after you run your PCT, but it will take longer.

 

[HeHammer]

Good to know... so Stone would you rec I should order some up and incorporate it into next weeks injections. Can I mix it in with my gear?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

If you are starting to suffer from testicular atrophy then I would get hold of some.

You can mix with your gear, but it is much easier to inject sub-q with an insulin pin.

 

[Bast]

Stone: youre saying he can mix a water based product with an oil based one...... and that wont be good.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Stone: youre saying he can mix a water based product with an oil based one...... and that wont be good.

Yes, it's done all the time......

 

[Bast]

So you do learn something new every day =), thanks.

But wont the oil and water separate?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

So you do learn something new every day =), thanks.

But wont the oil and water separate?

Yes they do.....you just have to be mindfull of the fact that the pressure needed to apply to the plunger will change as you go from oil to water.

 

[kraftprotz]

Don't put them in the same bottle, if that's what you're thinking. Keep each in a different vial then you can draw from both with the same pin, although some people prefer to shoot them separately. It's up to you.

 

[Ozzy27]

This is from Primordal Performance. I like what this guy has to say about Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). You can find this board within steroidology...He is on the top right with the sponsors.

Note: visually analyzing testes size is a poor method of judging your actual testicular function, since testicular size is not directly related to the ability to secrete testosterone. (4) This is because the leydig cells, which are the primary sites of testosterone secretion, only make up about 10% of the total testicular volume. Therefore, when the testes may only appear 5-10% smaller, the testes ability to secrete testosterone upon LH or hCG stimulation can actually be significantly reduced to 98% of their normal production. (3-5) The point here is to not judge testosterone secretion capacity by testicular size.

 

[HeHammer]

Good deal, thanks for the all the info everyone, ill order some up asap...If I chose to inject it separately with an insulin pin, does that mean I inject into my fat? Also I can only get a hold of it in 1500iu quantities, should I mix all the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) powder with all the bac water, then store it it and draw 250iu every 4-5days? Or should i split the water and powder up some how/way? How many ml is 250iu?

Just not too sure about the procedure here

 

[kraftprotz]

It'd be nearly impossible to split the powder up evenly. Calculate how much hCG you want per ml of water (I do 250iu hCG to 0.5ml water). Put the calculated amount of bac water into the hCG amp. Then what I do is filter that solution (i'm paranoid about glass particulates) into a sealed and sterile multi-dose vial. Then just keep that in the fridge and load a slin pin when you need to. The mixture is good for about 30 days so in my opinion, the 15000iu amps are perfect for the 250iu dosing protocol.

You can inject sub-q or IM. I like IM better and you don't even feel it with a slin pin. HTH.

 

[Ozzy27]

This is how I mixed the HCG.

First, throw out the liquid. If you haven't already, get some bacteriostatic water for injection. It's available openly on the internet.

Secondly, that "pill" is the actual HC.G powder. Once the bac water hits it, it will dissolve on contact.

I suggest constituting your HC.G so in the end you will have 500iu/ml. Here's how this will work:

Take 1ml of bac water and shoot it into the vial that has the HC.G powder. Now you have 5000iu of HC.G per 1ml of water.

Now. Suck this fluid up and put it into a separate 10ml sterile vial. You can find these on the web as well.

Then. Take ANOTHER 9ml of bac water and shoot it into the vial with the 1ml of water and 5000iu HC.G.

In the end you will have 5000iu of HC.G per 10ml of water. This means you have a 500iu/ml concentration.

Fridge the HC.G once you constitute it. It's good for roughly 30 days before losing potency.


I am not sure how long the solution that comes with the "pill" last though once it is mixed.