do you like running more gear or less gear when cutting?

[SoHo]

i just got off an 8 weeker tren blast @ 700mg + 150mg test a week, and i was clean bulking. now i recently dropped the tren, added in test prop and NPP both @ 350mg a week, (100mg EOD). also threw in some t3 @ 75mg ED. i'm also doing tbol @ 60mg ED

i know i kind of did this backwards but i wanted to try something new, i've never bulked while using tren.

what would you guys do in my position as far as dosages?

 

[Milton]

Looks interesting keep us posted!

 

[.Vision.]

i just got off an 8 weeker tren blast @ 700mg + 150mg test a week, and i was clean bulking. now i recently dropped the tren, added in test prop and NPP both @ 350mg a week, (100mg EOD). also threw in some t3 @ 75mg ED. i'm also doing tbol @ 60mg ED

i know i kind of did this backwards but i wanted to try something new, i've never bulked while using tren.

what would you guys do in my position as far as dosages?

I like to add more compounds, but I will lower the dosage,Less can be more especially when you have multi compounds going at once!

 

[SoHo]

I like to add more compounds, but I will lower the dosage,Less can be more especially when you have multi compounds going at once!

yeah that's what i'm experimenting with right now. in the past i've really only kept it basic, tren and test when cutting, high test when bulking.

how do you feel about adding in some mast @ 200 a week? on top of what i have. i'm not too lean right now i'm like 13% and have always seen mast as a compound to run when you approach the 10% zone.

 

[.Vision.]

yeah that's what i'm experimenting with right now. in the past i've really only kept it basic, tren and test when cutting, high test when bulking.

how do you feel about adding in some mast @ 200 a week? on top of what i have. i'm not too lean right now i'm like 13% and have always seen mast as a compound to run when you approach the 10% zone.

I support the addition of mast all day long.. I also found myself today questioning the addition of Mast, I have a considerable about of AAS going on, however Mast truly compliments cycles, especially cutting..Because of what mast does for me, I'm really wrestling with this one..

Mast is great with tren, It will assist with side (for most people) but you'll really see the beauty of mast the lower your % gets, but you'll feel the benefits all the while when running it in combo with tren..

 

[SoHo]

I support the addition of mast all day long.. I also found myself today questioning the addition of Mast, I have a considerable about of AAS going on, however Mast truly compliments cycles, especially cutting..Because of what mast does for me, I'm really wrestling with this one..

Mast is great with tren, It will assist with side (for most people) but you'll really see the beauty of mast the lower your % gets, but you'll feel the benefits all the while when running it in combo with tren..

about 4 years ago one of my first cycles was test and tren one of the best cycles of my life, the tren was from a lab everyone was going crazy over at the time. now that i've gained more experience with AAS i'm almost certain that tren had some mast in it as well. fuck it, brb loading up my pin hahah

 

[.Vision.]

about 4 years ago one of my first cycles was test and tren one of the best cycles of my life, the tren was from a lab everyone was going crazy over at the time. now that i've gained more experience with AAS i'm almost certain that tren had some mast in it as well. fuck it, brb loading up my pin hahah

Brother, I'm still learning new things.. Science is just barely stretching exterior, let alone understanding the core..Studies are constantly contradicting one an other, its a fact...
It's such a learning progress.. The deeper the rabbit hole gets, the more I want to know.. And the beauty of it, we are merely our very own study/experiment after all, with or without clinical research behind us!

 

[Onk]

Smaller doses...just to maintain. My last bulk was 750 test, 450 tren, 500 deca. Cut i can do on 250 test, 500 tren.

200mg of mast is a waste and will have little effect. I wouldn't run it lower than 600mg. I love it at 800mg/wk

 

[SoHo]

Smaller doses...just to maintain. My last bulk was 750 test, 450 tren, 500 deca. Cut i can do on 250 test, 500 tren.

200mg of mast is a waste and will have little effect. I wouldn't run it lower than 600mg. I love it at 800mg/wk

i beg to differ. a buddy of mine gave me 2 vials of mast enan/prop which is 150 mast enth and 50mg mast prop. i ran thru one vial to test it out and i cant remember if i was doing 200 or 300 a week, but i definitely noticed a difference.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Smaller doses...just to maintain. My last bulk was 750 test, 450 tren, 500 deca. Cut i can do on 250 test, 500 tren.

200mg of mast is a waste and will have little effect. I wouldn't run it lower than 600mg. I love it at 800mg/wk

This is right on about the mast. I don't understand why these guys don't take heed to the steroid profiles.

 

[oldmusclemike]

i beg to differ. a buddy of mine gave me 2 vials of mast enan/prop which is 150 mast enth and 50mg mast prop. i ran thru one vial to test it out and i cant remember if i was doing 200 or 300 a week, but i definitely noticed a difference.

What kind of difference you talking about?

 

[SoHo]

What kind of difference you talking about?

harder, dryer, tighter, more vasular, strength gains. definitely not a waste at all running it at a low dose. thats like saying running test at 350mg a week alone is a waste, sure it would be better if the dose was higher, but you can't say its a waste.

 

[oldmusclemike]

harder, dryer, tighter, more vasular, strength gains. definitely not a waste at all running it at a low dose. thats like saying running test at 350mg a week alone is a waste, sure it would be better if the dose was higher, but you can't say its a waste.

Sorry I had to leave for a few and left my in house (online ) light on. No not a waist for some but I really think (we've all different) it has a lot to do with what cycle it is for you and where your LMM base is at the time of cycle. Of course like all cycles , a lot is what you are expecting the compound to help you with. Goal....
It's important in many most cases to know what anabolic value a compound has in conjunction with your other stacked compounds.

Anyway I agree to disagree, and to each their own. Good Luck man WE want the best for each other

 

[Onk]

harder, dryer, tighter, more vasular, strength gains. definitely not a waste at all running it at a low dose. thats like saying running test at 350mg a week alone is a waste, sure it would be better if the dose was higher, but you can't say its a waste.

Test and mast aren't comparable in this instance. 200mg tren, 300 test, 300 dec...they all have their place. Mast which is much weaker is largely a waste. Better to use it properly. Otherwise I'd just add my left over dbol, primo and halo at stupidly low doses just because i can

 

[SoHo]

Sorry I had to leave for a few and left my in house (online ) light on. No not a waist for some but I really think (we've all different) it has a lot to do with what cycle it is for you and where your LMM base is at the time of cycle. Of course like all cycles , a lot is what you are expecting the compound to help you with. Goal....
It's important in many most cases to know what anabolic value a compound has in conjunction with your other stacked compounds.

Anyway I agree to disagree, and to each their own. Good Luck man WE want the best for each other

thanks man. i always look at it this way; i can always up my dose whenever i choose if i am not pleased with the effects!

 

[jozifp103]

When bulking I run higher doses of simpler compounds. A simple high dosed test/deca cycle is plenty to ad slabs of mass.....

Cutting for me is done with lower doses, but I tend to add in more "fancy" compounds I suppose you'd call them. Tren, mast, winny, var etc. Stacking some dht's and adding tren to maximize hardening. I'd say my cutting cycles are more complex, but not as high dosed. Just need enough to preserve.