Does gear go bad?
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epoxy
Spartan
whats the expiration date? its always been my understanding that once reaching the expiration date a medication slowly loses potency over time. whether or not this is true with injectables i dont know, but I would imagine you'd have some sort of exp date unless you brewed the gear yourself
tee
old...old man
I have used my injectible gear from a pharmacy that was expired for 5 years and it worked just fine for me. Didn't even seem to be less potent. I always store my gear in a dark, dry, cool place. Here's an old article about drug expiration dates.
Drug Expiration Dates — Do They Mean Anything?
With a splitting headache you reach into your medicine cabinet for some aspirin only to find the stamped expiration date on the bottle has passed — two years ago. So, do you take it or don't you? If you decide to take the aspirin will it be a fatal mistake or will you simply continue to suffer from the headache?
This is a dilemma many people face in some way or another. A column published in Pyschopharmacology Today offers some advice.
It turns out that the expiration date on a drug does stand for something, but probably not what you think it does. Since a law was passed in 1979, drug manufacturers are required to stamp an expiration date on their products. This is the date at which the manufacturer can still guarantee the full potency and safety of the drug.
Most of what is known about drug expiration dates comes from a study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date.
So the expiration date doesn't really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state expired drugs are safe to take, even those that expired years ago. A rare exception to this may be tetracycline, but the report on this is controversial among researchers. It's true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military. Placing a medication in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years.
Is the expiration date a marketing ploy by drug manufacturers, to keep you restocking your medicine cabinet and their pockets regularly? You can look at it that way. Or you can also look at it this way: The expiration dates are very conservative to ensure you get everything you paid for. And, really, if a drug manufacturer had to do expiration-date testing for longer periods it would slow their ability to bring you new and improved formulations.
The next time you face the drug expiration date dilemma, consider what you've learned here. If the expiration date passed a few years ago and it's important that your drug is absolutely 100% effective, you might want to consider buying a new bottle. And if you have any questions about the safety or effectiveness of any drug, ask your pharmacist. He or she is a great resource when it comes to getting more information about your medications.
November 2003 Update
HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL
Don't think I'd safe a water bases steroid for that long due to the fact that it can become contaminated much more easily.
Drug Expiration Dates — Do They Mean Anything?
With a splitting headache you reach into your medicine cabinet for some aspirin only to find the stamped expiration date on the bottle has passed — two years ago. So, do you take it or don't you? If you decide to take the aspirin will it be a fatal mistake or will you simply continue to suffer from the headache?
This is a dilemma many people face in some way or another. A column published in Pyschopharmacology Today offers some advice.
It turns out that the expiration date on a drug does stand for something, but probably not what you think it does. Since a law was passed in 1979, drug manufacturers are required to stamp an expiration date on their products. This is the date at which the manufacturer can still guarantee the full potency and safety of the drug.
Most of what is known about drug expiration dates comes from a study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date.
So the expiration date doesn't really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state expired drugs are safe to take, even those that expired years ago. A rare exception to this may be tetracycline, but the report on this is controversial among researchers. It's true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military. Placing a medication in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years.
Is the expiration date a marketing ploy by drug manufacturers, to keep you restocking your medicine cabinet and their pockets regularly? You can look at it that way. Or you can also look at it this way: The expiration dates are very conservative to ensure you get everything you paid for. And, really, if a drug manufacturer had to do expiration-date testing for longer periods it would slow their ability to bring you new and improved formulations.
The next time you face the drug expiration date dilemma, consider what you've learned here. If the expiration date passed a few years ago and it's important that your drug is absolutely 100% effective, you might want to consider buying a new bottle. And if you have any questions about the safety or effectiveness of any drug, ask your pharmacist. He or she is a great resource when it comes to getting more information about your medications.
November 2003 Update
HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL
Don't think I'd safe a water bases steroid for that long due to the fact that it can become contaminated much more easily.
mattakaspeeedy
New member
I dont really think it is wise with orals as it will be extremely toxic. And with injectables why on earth would you keep them for years without using them ? either use them now or sell them and then when you are ready go get some new gear..
oil will degrade over time. I wouldn't trust hg more than a couple of years and if it was ug gear I would refilter it into a lab sterilized vial before I considered putting it away.
Of course I tend to refilter ug gear into a lab sterilized vial before use as a cheap precaution.
Of course I tend to refilter ug gear into a lab sterilized vial before use as a cheap precaution.
TheMilkMan
New member
That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. First off, the internet myth that oral steroids are "incredibly toxic" is just that, a myth that has been spread through internet hearsay. Orals in moderate doses, with proper precaution taken (ie. Milk Thistle, staying hydrated, limiting use to a reasonable time period, etc), will show minimal adverse effects on the lipid profile in most users. Secondly, the shear fact that as expired drug could potentially become LESS POTENT, means that by all accounts it would in fact become "safer" as there would be less active ingredient.
Please research and become informed before bringing this type of shit on the forum.
TheMilkMan
New member
If anything, I would keep the gear as is until I planned on using it. When I decided it was time, I would add 2% BA to the vial it is currently in, and filter it into another sterile vial. This would ensure that you would be shooting gear that would not cause an infection.
