ECA/CLEN to help with fat mobilization and fatigue on dnp?

[Mrrippedzilla]

A friend of mine recently came up to me and asked me this question:
What most effects him on dnp is the fatigue and not being able to train like he normally does. Now, he knows this is normal on dnp, and he knows both eca and clen can help but....which one is better?
Which one mobilizes more fat for dnp to use? And which one helps the most with dnp?

Answers from people who've actually cycled these would be appreciated.

 

[Rida5d]

Ur friend is playing with fire using DNP. The shit is poison and its a death prescription . But I'm sure ur friend isn't interested to hear this.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

No offence guys, but me & him have both cycled dnp before with great results.
So yes we are aware it should be respected, careful dosage, water, anti oxidants, etc etc.

Also, I've followed the likes of "conciliator" through many forums, so telling me its dangerous and a poison isnt going to get far.

The question again is can eca or clen help with the fatigue on it? Which one is more effective?

 

[dopamine]

You are already increasing your natural metabolic rate to nigh-dangerous levels with DNP - and yet you want to increase this further by taking a sympathomimetic thermogenic (Oh, you didn't know that Ephedrine and Clenbuterol can also increase your body temperature?) simply to to attenuate your fatigue.

This only goes to show that you have no business taking the compound.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

So your suggesting clen/eca would add to dangers rather than address the issue of fatigue? Interesting point of view.

I have no business taking it? Explain?
First of all I've used it before successfully so do not address me like an obese amateur who doesn't known what he's doing.
My diet, routine and other factors allowed me to lose close to 1%bf a week, so I ran dnp not because I'm lazy but because I dont enjoy being in a calorie deficit for months. Frankly, I have others goals to achieve in life.

If you have proof backing up your statement on eca/clen adding to the danger, please show me. Otherwise do not insult my intelligence.

 

[dopamine]

Ephedrine and Clenbuterol are both potent thermogenic compounds that can further intensify DNP's effects on one's body temperature. Perhaps you should look this up, as any bodybuilder worth his salt should know this about both compounds.

The fatigue brought upon by the use of DNP has everything to do with the severe drop in calories that accompanies its usage. Taking a potent sympathomimetic to ameliorate your fatigue is akin to taking methamphetamine to stave off the fatigue accompanying a day long fast.

Ephedrine and Clenbuterol both possess the phenethylamine backbone found in amphetamines, where the former is usually dehydrogenated to yield an amphetamine molecule. The latter has a much more complicated structure by virtue of the halogen and amine groups present on the benzene ring, it is posited that such additions make the compound more potent than ephedrine, and far more dangerous, accordingly.

Try to digest that.

Yes. You're lazy. There are a plethora of threads and topics all over the internet concerning your query, and yet you can't be bothered to look them up.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

I appreciate the science, simply put both at the same time isn't wise, even though plenty use eca stacks with dnp to get good results.

I have received an excellent response from one of the mods here that answers my question; an on/off approach seems to work best to reduce the fatigue effects.

You realise that if we all searched the internet for answers a forum like this would become pointless? But nevermind, your insults wont effect me since the mods were very helpful .

 

[dopamine]

The entire point of there being a forum is to create a repository and directory of valuable information that people can utilize. An organized bank of information of sorts. It is not to serve as a means of satisfying your laziness.

You are simply wasting bandwidth and clogging up the forum with topics that have been dealt with time and time again - very reminiscent of the 'What is wrong with taking steroids at a young age' threads on this forum.

I doubt a moderator would waste his time on you. Care to post a screenshot of this personal message?

Feel free to prove me wrong.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Dadawg is one of the senior mods on this site, he gave me all the info I wanted. I will not share it with you, kind of eliminates the point of a PRIVATE message doesn't it
If you want proof simply ask the man himself, but dont expect him to indulge in this childish game of yours.
The thread is over for me, my life is is ending one day at a time - I dont intend wasting another second on you.

 

[dopamine]

LOL.

So instead of browsing the threads or directly messaging Dadawg, you started a new thread just to get people to spoon feed you.

Inb4 he proves me right and replies to this message.