i think both alternatives are fucked. why pay platinum? first of all, if you pay with a credit card who is to say that your identity will be protected? i would not trust any fuckin site with my personal info. anything i say can be traced directly to me and who needs that shit? especially when we discuss illegal activities that can put us behind bars. second, i would not trust any site that had such blatantly obvious illegal sources. go ahead and order, youre just asking to be busted. with luck you will only get scammed. third, its ridiculous that you have to pay for 90 percent of the shit there. this is a much better site. this is where i go first. sometimes i post on elite, but not often. that place is going down soon, platinum or no platinum. if it doesnt then perhaps it has become a federal operations base. sounds too unlikely? why else would they allow illegal substances to be advertised? maybe to allow the feds to get some easy busts. the other reason is not possible. it would take someone with the almightys IQ to allow some shit like that and think that there would be no consequences. if the site doesnt get shut down and the owner busted then its because members are getting busted. i do not think anyone could be stupid enough to allow that shit to go on. im about to go and take a look for myself, as this thread is the only thing im basing my comments on. i probably wont be going over there anymore if its as bad as it sounds. laters.