end of week 4 pics ...........

[Matt0071]

I dont really go by scales anyways, but if I didnt check I woukd be lying, I like to obviously take pics once a week and post them and get critiqued, bad critique just makes me go harder, I have always been that way just with my cocky demener so it works both ways
As I see my body in the mirror everyday, thinking to myself fuck am I really growing or not, mind shit ya know, but its a nice feeling when u goto the gym and get those looks and comments, makes my day and keeps me going
And the ones that really get far into cutting someone else down without even posting one single pic of themselves can go fuck themselves

 

[555_____]

I didn't say you mame no progress, I said you limit it. You're making strawmen arguments, it's just as easy if not easier in some cases to get injured in the manner of training you're advocating here. Good luck with your progress regardless

No you didn't you said, "You're so worried about injury now you hold back your own progress."
My progress is coming along just fine and I'm not prepared to get injured fucking around with weights I cant control.
People pushing big weights to satisfy their big egos is the biggest factor in ruining physiques.

 

[Matt0071]

Not that I am saying I grab pussy weight and curl that, but I am saying those clowns at the gym that say u are curlig 30lbs db with good form then u some fat idiot right beside doing back curls or whatever the fuck u wanna call it curling 70lbs dumbells and throwing them down like a clown and then looking around at people like hes the man, but meanwhile anybody with half ass knowledge would say what a fucking idiot

 

[Matt0071]

Everyone has got those in a gym, guarnteed and the gym I goto its cheap snd fits in my budget, and no its not planet fitness lol but has got one of those alarmd that go off and could get pretty annoying fast seeing those diots doing that

 

[555_____]

I sit down beside young kids with arms like sticks throwing 50lb dumbells around for curls and pick up the 25s and rep out, they sit there looking at me thinking, what a pussy, hes weak as fuck.

Never mind, I am twice their size and almost 3 times their age.

 

[DreDay187]

No you didn't you said, "You're so worried about injury now you hold back your own progress."

Which = limiting your progress.

My progress is coming along just fine and I'm not prepared to get injured fucking around with weights I cant control.
People pushing big weights to satisfy their big egos is the biggest factor in ruining physiques.

Strawman argument. You seem to make a lot of those...usually a sign your argument is weak or you don't know how to defend it.


Edit* I think the second sentence may be a red herring.

 

[555_____]

Which = limiting your progress. .

Holding something back indicates it isn't going forward at all.
That was my interpretation of what you wrote.

Why do you keep saying "strawman argument"?
How is me refusing to boost my ego by trying to lft weights that are too heavy for me a strawman argument?
My point is you can stimulate muscle growth in a safer way than just going heavy.

 

[DreDay187]

Holding something back indicates it isn't going forward at all.
That was my interpretation of what you wrote.

Why do you keep saying "strawman argument"?
How is me refusing to boost my ego by trying to lft weights that are too heavy for me a strawman argument?
My point is you can stimulate muscle growth in a safer way than just going heavy.

Or that forward momentum is slowed.

Strawman bc you imply all ppl who lift heavy will get injured or by lifting light you prevent injury. Then you bring ego into it as if it's pertinent to the discussion. There are many ways to get big and strong but they all involve progress of some sort. In the iron game that's weight in the bar or more volume. Then volume alone becomes insufficient to sour growth and more intensity (weight on the bar) is needed. Intensity and volume drive progress neither one alone will take you infinitely but intensity will get you farther for the most part.

You're also assuming heavy weights equals poor form. I assure you nobody got to a 700lb squat for example with poor form or without becomin adapted to do so first. Going heavy isn't an excuse for poor form and never was it stated that it should be. When going for a. ME day though or heavy singles, a little form degradation is to be expected. Again this doesn't equal injury all the time or even most of the time. Volume can injure just as much as intensity does so your Strawman is invalid.

 

[gram of tren]

555 you cant argue with some of these guys on this board. they will argue til they are blue in the face that you need to lift as heavy as humanly possible otherwise you wont get big. meanwhile they wont post a picture of themselves to back up that argument. ive posted several pictures of my physique that is being built on moderate weight in the 12 rep range. moderate meaning weight that is challenging enough for me to get 10ish reps with good form and maybe a few cheater reps at the end.

it is a fact that the 10-12 rep range is most beneficial for hypertrophy so I don't even know what the argument is about. good form is better than shitty form, cant argue that either.

 

[555_____]

555 you cant argue with some of these guys on this board. they will argue til they are blue in the face that you need to lift as heavy as humanly possible otherwise you wont get big. meanwhile they wont post a picture of themselves to back up that argument. ive posted several pictures of my physique that is being built on moderate weight in the 12 rep range. moderate meaning weight that is challenging enough for me to get 10ish reps with good form and maybe a few cheater reps at the end.

it is a fact that the 10-12 rep range is most beneficial for hypertrophy so I don't even know what the argument is about. good form is better than shitty form, cant argue that either.

I thought I was all alone here, I never go below 10 reps ever, I go as high as 30, even more on legs.
Low reps equals no pump and increased risk of injury due to reaching failure at the low rep range.

I just do what works for me, looking great in your Avi mate.

 

[555_____]

Or that forward momentum is slowed.

Strawman bc you imply all ppl who lift heavy will get injured or by lifting light you prevent injury. Then you bring ego into it as if it's pertinent to the discussion. There are many ways to get big and strong but they all involve progress of some sort. In the iron game that's weight in the bar or more volume. Then volume alone becomes insufficient to sour growth and more intensity (weight on the bar) is needed. Intensity and volume drive progress neither one alone will take you infinitely but intensity will get you farther for the most part.

You're also assuming heavy weights equals poor form. I assure you nobody got to a 700lb squat for example with poor form or without becomin adapted to do so first. Going heavy isn't an excuse for poor form and never was it stated that it should be. When going for a. ME day though or heavy singles, a little form degradation is to be expected. Again this doesn't equal injury all the time or even most of the time. Volume can injure just as much as intensity does so your Strawman is invalid.

Bullshit.

 

[DreDay187]

Bullshit.

The same type that you're spewing off with?

 

[DreDay187]

555 you cant argue with some of these guys on this board. they will argue til they are blue in the face that you need to lift as heavy as humanly possible otherwise you wont get big. meanwhile they wont post a picture of themselves to back up that argument. ive posted several pictures of my physique that is being built on moderate weight in the 12 rep range. moderate meaning weight that is challenging enough for me to get 10ish reps with good form and maybe a few cheater reps at the end.

it is a fact that the 10-12 rep range is most beneficial for hypertrophy so I don't even know what the argument is about. good form is better than shitty form, cant argue that either.

We're best friends now so I'll bite my tongue...In-N-Out burger is still your treat though

 

[Black Beard]

He never said you have to lift heavy gram of tren. I think you are smart enough to understand what he is saying. He is saying you have to increase the workload on your muscle in order to ellicit hypertrophy. The weights dont have to be heavy or even get heavier but you cant keep doing the same fucking thing for an entire year and expect to grow. Dreday has cemented himself as a certified broscience killer in my book. I'm glad pump n tone works so well for some of you guys. You must just have better genetics than me.

 

[Black Beard]

Oh and 'theres no such thing as over training either' i just have the shittiest genetics.

 

[Rida5d]

We're best friends now so I'll bite my tongue...In-N-Out burger is still your treat though

Dre..
Do u see that old guy in the attached photo ?
That old guy, I guess he is in his 70s, was mike Tyson mentor and coach, Cus D'Amato
Looking at this guy's photo, some crazy stupid fks would say, who is this old fart, and why I would take advice from him , still he created mike Tyson and turned him into a legend.
I look at you , the same way mike looked at D'Amato.
Hoping you are not that old though no homo bro.

 

[Black Beard]

Dreday is a broscience slayer.

 

[LetsGoHeavyBro]

I thought I was all alone here, I never go below 10 reps ever, I go as high as 30, even more on legs.
Low reps equals no pump and increased risk of injury due to reaching failure at the low rep range.

I just do what works for me, looking great in your Avi mate.

You are not alone here brother..

 

[Rida5d]

Dreday is a broscience slayer.

That guy, dre is a damn walking encyclopedia like his friend austinite.
By the way, I ve been following lots of ur posts and you are not bad urself also, u know lots of stuff about lots of subjects..i ve seen u saying that u know this and that from ur college.. Do u mind me asking you what's ur major? My guess would be..... Ummm.. Med school?

 

[Black Beard]

Nurse is my occupation but i'm a nutrition/fitness/endocrinology/computer nerd