Endo says my levels are normal and he wont treat me (Blood tests inside)

CoolCat20

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First of all im an 19 year old male, about 210lbs.

Basically, i got my appointment with an endo (NHS) and he was quick to knock me for suggesting my testosterone levels are low for my age and my estrogen is high - even after i explained all my symptoms and brought charts and information of normal testosterone levels in men, he didnt want to know, hes sent me for another blood test to check over other different hormones. He said he wont treat me for low t high e because he dosent see a problem.

On the way home i picked up print outs of my past blood test results my GP had me take so i could post them on here and see what you guys think.


Serum Testosterone Level: 16.4/482 nmol/L (8.0 - 30.0)

SSHBG: 13 nmol/L (13.0-71.0)

Serum Oestradiol Level: 149 pmol/L (<= 150.0)

Serum Prolactin level: 111 mu/L (<= 550.0)



Symptoms:

Poor libido (Low sexual desire)
Fatigue (medical) always tired
Muscle loss/atrophy
Erectile Dysfunction - Weak Erections and No Morning Erections
Increasing abdominal fat
Poor sleep
Difficulty concentrating
Memory Loss-difficulty in choosing words in language
Shyness
Depression
Anxiety
Psychological and relationship problems
Ive had Grade 3 bilateral Gynecomastia (Had Surgery at age 17)
Irritability
Frequent urination (polyuria) without infection; waking at night to urinate
Achy muscles
Night sweats




Where do i go from here?

**UPDATE**

The Endo basically agreed the symptoms match with a hormone problem but said my levels are normal and he wont treat me.
He said many times my Estrogen is normal and he would be happy if he had that level and my testosterone is fine. He even said if i was to take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) i could have bone problems?
He basically said he didnt know what to do or why i was having these problems - i kept pointing out my testosterone level is not healthy for someone of my age and its clear why im feeling these symptoms and he said my bioavalable testosterone is within the top 99% of the population so he dosent see my testosterone levels as low.

I also got the results from the blood test i last had for cortisol, test, estrogen etc..

These tests were at 9 am but i hadnt slept and had woke up at 5pm the day before... so it was basically my night time.

TSH 6.9 Miu/L (.020-6.00)

Free T4 15.9 Pmol/L (10.0-25.0)

SHBG: 16 (13-71)

Prolaction 257 (0-550)

Oestradiol (extractn) 132 pmol/L (<150)

Testosterone 8.9 nmol/L (8.0-30)


Cortisol 246 nmol/L (Random cortisol is dependent on time of sample: 0900h cortisol 150 - 600 nmol/L 2400h (midnight) cortisol <50 nmol/L)

Cortisol after short synacthen test: 495 nmol/L


Now i asked the endo if it mattered how id slept or if i did at all before i got my cortisol checked and he said no, but in the brackets next to my reading it states "Random cortisol is dependent on time of sample" does that mean my Cortisol level of 246 should really be compared within the midnight range? so under 50 - witch it isnt.
 
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Get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and a new doc.. Your estrogen is too high.. That might get rid of those symptoms? Your test levels are a little low, but, maybe if you get your estrogen under control you will get some energy to workout and eat right to try and get your test level up..
 
If your endo asked for cortisol or blood sugar levels he may have a point
I'm not sure, but i think all these symptoms can't be from border line high E and border line low T ,,,, to be honest your symptoms perfectly fit diabetes
so my advice is to give your endo a chance to exclude what he's got in mind
 
If your endo asked for cortisol or blood sugar levels he may have a point
I'm not sure, but i think all these symptoms can't be from border line high E and border line low T ,,,, to be honest your symptoms perfectly fit diabetes
so my advice is to give your endo a chance to exclude what he's got in mind

I think hes going to check cortisol, ive already had a full blood count and had blood sugar levels check to see if im diabetic and i'm not, also every one of my symptoms is on the wiki for Hypogonadism.
 
MAN !!! you actually copied that from wiki ...
I'm not sure man but I think most of these symptoms is just in your head...you read about the disease you think you have and convince yourself you've got all the symptoms
I'm not judging, there's something wrong with you for sure... but don't lock your mind on hypogonadism
this is just an opinion :)
 
MAN !!! you actually copied that from wiki ...
I'm not sure man but I think most of these symptoms is just in your head...you read about the disease you think you have and convince yourself you've got all the symptoms
I'm not judging, there's something wrong with you for sure... but don't lock your mind on hypogonadism
this is just an opinion :)

No, they are NOT in my head, i searched for what my symptoms i had and thats how i came across the idea i had hormonal issues! And yes i just copied them because its quicker than typing it out..
 
estrogen looks a little high, test is a little on the low side for your age, SHBG is nice...find a new doc if u still have symptoms.
 
SSHBG is nice? are you sure? from what ive read a low SSHBG with high estrogen is a bad thing.
 
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also every one of my symptoms is on the wiki for Hypogonadism.
It is worth noting that all of the symptoms of hypogonadism are also symptoms of several other medical conditions. A good doctor will try to get a full picture and not just jump to conclusions.
 
Get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and a new doc.. Your estrogen is too high.. That might get rid of those symptoms? Your test levels are a little low, but, maybe if you get your estrogen under control you will get some energy to workout and eat right to try and get your test level up..

Agreed. Total test would probably even come up.
 
CoolCat20: Can you post full bloodwork results? Not just the tests you've provided above. Also ask your doctor what direction he's thinking of going in/what he possible conditions he wants to rule out/etc. If he talks to you openly and honestly great, work with him. Medicine is a partnership. If not, find a new doc.

In either case a second opinion never hurt anybody.
 
CoolCat20: Can you post full bloodwork results? Not just the tests you've provided above. Also ask your doctor what direction he's thinking of going in/what he possible conditions he wants to rule out/etc. If he talks to you openly and honestly great, work with him. Medicine is a partnership. If not, find a new doc.

In either case a second opinion never hurt anybody.

Haemoglobin Concentration 15.2 g/dl (13.5-18.0)

Total white blood count 4.75 10*9/L (4.0-11.0)

Platelet count 236 10*9/L (150.0-400.0)

Mean cell volume 83 fL (78.0-100.00)

Packed cell volume 0.46 (0.4-0.52)

Red blood cell count 5.47 10*12/L (4.5-6.5)

Mean cell haemoglobin level 27.8 pg (27.0-32.0)

Red blood cell distribution width 13.4 (11.5-15.0)

Neutrophil count 2.52 10*9/L (2.0-7.5)

Lymphocyte count 1.65 10*9/L (1.5-4.5)

Monocyte count - observation 0.23 10*9/L (0.2 - 0.8)

Eosinophil count - observation 0.24 10*9/L (0.04-0.4)

Basophil count 0.04 10*9/L (<=0.1)
Percentage hypochromic cells 0%
 
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