yellowballs
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I am on TRT and comfortable with my Dr. but I am always open minded and looking to improve on things. I found a Dr. who is a D.O. not an endo or uroligist. He does anti-ageing , some chiropractor, food & seasonal allergies, vitamins, etc. He basically calls himself a one stop for everything Dr.
I told him I was on TRT and they took blood and then this is what he explained to me and what is to the best of my memory;
(he talked alot so Im just going to throw down as It comes to mind)
He said that most men with low T can get their normal T function back 90% of the time.
Supplements from vitamin stores dont really do anything and can actually make matters worse. Most supps are from China now and may contain harsh chems,heavy metals etc. I told him that Milk Thistle is one of my supps. He said that whatever you put in your body has to be metabolized by your liver. So the liver has to work to break down the Milk Thistle ....then by the time it does that it hardly delivers the healthy punch thats needed by your liver.....he actually siad your better off not taking anything cause then your liver gets to rest more. ( keep in mind this Dr. actually gives vitamin treatments via injection, so he may be just trying to sell me something).
He said Test is actually estrogen, you inject it and your liver turns it into Testosterone (Wtf is this? I never knew that! )
Diet wise he said those on TRT should have a very specific diet ,some things here I agree with and others I don't. For instance he said that TRT patients have to be careful with carbs cause you can become insulin resistant or even diabetic. I told him my carbs are low glycemic and he was happy to hear that. I agree with this but not just for TRT patients but for everyone. What I didnt agree with was that he held up his smart phone and said this is 30g of meat, it is all you should eat in one day. He said no more than 30g of animal protein a day and to get the rest from plant based. This includes egg whites!.
So thats basically one chicken breast or one plate of egg whts a day.... you choose. So if you need 150-200g of protein a day the rest is gonna have to come from beans and what not. I dont know, what do you guys think?
Everything this guy was talkin about was geared to optimal liver health and heart health. I told him my last labs showed a decrease in my HDL hence why I am taking red yeast,milk thistle,NAC, Garlic w/ Allicyn.
He didnt really answer much on that because he wants to see my BW first but in a round about way he sounded like he would lower my TRT dose to the point were my HDL will come up??? Im sort of reading into this but thats my gut for now.
He finalized by saying that using TRT is still a very new practice and using the drugs can be very dangerous. He welcomes open discussions and will never rush a patient.
I am going back for a follow up on my labs and to have a test for food & seasonal allergies. I would like to hear the boards thoughts on what I've wrote and maybe you guys have some input as to any questions I should ask him on my next visit.
Thnx!
I told him I was on TRT and they took blood and then this is what he explained to me and what is to the best of my memory;
(he talked alot so Im just going to throw down as It comes to mind)
He said that most men with low T can get their normal T function back 90% of the time.
Supplements from vitamin stores dont really do anything and can actually make matters worse. Most supps are from China now and may contain harsh chems,heavy metals etc. I told him that Milk Thistle is one of my supps. He said that whatever you put in your body has to be metabolized by your liver. So the liver has to work to break down the Milk Thistle ....then by the time it does that it hardly delivers the healthy punch thats needed by your liver.....he actually siad your better off not taking anything cause then your liver gets to rest more. ( keep in mind this Dr. actually gives vitamin treatments via injection, so he may be just trying to sell me something).
He said Test is actually estrogen, you inject it and your liver turns it into Testosterone (Wtf is this? I never knew that! )
Diet wise he said those on TRT should have a very specific diet ,some things here I agree with and others I don't. For instance he said that TRT patients have to be careful with carbs cause you can become insulin resistant or even diabetic. I told him my carbs are low glycemic and he was happy to hear that. I agree with this but not just for TRT patients but for everyone. What I didnt agree with was that he held up his smart phone and said this is 30g of meat, it is all you should eat in one day. He said no more than 30g of animal protein a day and to get the rest from plant based. This includes egg whites!.
So thats basically one chicken breast or one plate of egg whts a day.... you choose. So if you need 150-200g of protein a day the rest is gonna have to come from beans and what not. I dont know, what do you guys think?
Everything this guy was talkin about was geared to optimal liver health and heart health. I told him my last labs showed a decrease in my HDL hence why I am taking red yeast,milk thistle,NAC, Garlic w/ Allicyn.
He didnt really answer much on that because he wants to see my BW first but in a round about way he sounded like he would lower my TRT dose to the point were my HDL will come up??? Im sort of reading into this but thats my gut for now.
He finalized by saying that using TRT is still a very new practice and using the drugs can be very dangerous. He welcomes open discussions and will never rush a patient.
I am going back for a follow up on my labs and to have a test for food & seasonal allergies. I would like to hear the boards thoughts on what I've wrote and maybe you guys have some input as to any questions I should ask him on my next visit.
Thnx!
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