Experience - Oral only cycles, ready to jump into the big leagues but need advice

Cuatro

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Gentlemen,

I have fiddled around with Oral only cycles on and off for years - dbol and anadrol. I have gained mass no doubt but have always lost all of it. I have decided to get over my fear of needles and jump into the big leagues. My questions are what should be my first cycle. I am 5'10, 210lbs, 34 years old, military guy. I am pretty stocky right now, finished a dbol 6 week cycle a couple weeks ago. I have never achieve a 'cut' look only mass gains (no real strength either) so I am very interested in that cut 'look'. Here is what i found on the internet and I would appreciate some advice on whether or not these are good suggestions.

. BEGINNER STRENGTH & BULK CYCLE

This cycle is not only used for beginners, but experts as well. This cycle is great for adding size and strength, while keeping a good portion of it. The sustanon and dbol add the size and contribute to the strength. The deca not only adds strength but solidifies the gains from the sustanon and dbol.
Week Sustanon mg/week Dianabol mg/day – Twice a day Deca mg/week
1 250 2 * 20 100
2 250 2 * 30 200
3 250 2 * 30 300
4 250 2 * 20 400
5 250 2 * 10 400
6 250 - 300
7 250 - 200
8 250 - 100
Juice needed: 8 vials of Sustanon 250 mg/vial
400 tabs of Dianabol
10 amps of Deca durabolin 200 mg/amp

6. SUPER CUTTING CYCLE

This is one of the best cutting cycles for both beginners and experts. Cytomel can also be added.
Week Winstrol mg/week Primobolan mg/week *Clenbuterol tabs/day
1 100 100 1 tab – 3 times a day
2 200 100 1 tab – 3 times a day
3 200 200
4 300 200
5 300 300 1 tab – 3 times a day
6 200 200 1 tab – 3 times a day
7 200 200
8 100 100
9 1 tab – 3 times a day
10 1 tab – 3 times a day
Juice needed: 32 vials of Winstrol 50 mg/vial
14 vials of Primobolan 100 mg/vial
150 tabs of Clenbuterol

*Clenbuterol – Dosages vary a great deal between individuals. The user should take as much as their body can handle, and not anymore. Clenbuterol can be dangerous of over used. 3 tabs a day about what the average bodybuilder takes.
 
Were I you, I would treat your first course of injectable AAS as if it were my first cycle. 5-600mg of T for 10-12 weeks. The cycles below are unnecessarily complicated and expensive. Not to mention that the pyramid dosing concept is outdated. Have Aromosin on hand for E management, and Clomid for PCT. Cheap, easy, and likely far more effective than your previous AAS cycles. Good luck.

Poly
 
its seems your goal is to achieve the "cut look" as u call it...

if that's the case gear is not the answer, of course it can assist in getting u there, but diet (extreme low carb, high protein, as much water as u can drink throughout the day) and loads of cardio are the main ingredients to that recipe...

add in test at 250-500mg per week + some Winstrol (winny) or Anavar (var) at 50mg ed for 10-12 wks (yes I know some bros are gonna say its too long for an oral, but it works) and you'll be heading in the right direction...

remember that if your goal is to reduce bf% DONT be concerned with strength, pay more attention to your diet and cardio.

hope that helps
 
China Wall, your right bro - I need to do more cardio and change up diet. Frickin hate running though, may tryout eliptical and see how I like that. Thx again!
 
id get your liver values checked first at the doctors before you start it. If youve been usind dbol and anadrol well you could still have elavated liver values which wouldnt be good.
I would keep everything down for your first cycle, like 250 mg a week of sus or test for 10 weeks and from there you can gauge how your body reacts to specific compounds. Then you may want to start adding things like dbol or anadrol to kickstart you next cycle,
best
 
flecks - wish that was an option. I am military and currently in the middle-east so I can't bring attention to myself.
 
hi guys;

i have searched the web and could not find anything on the following.

i have been competing as an amteur bodybuilder for the last 5 years on and off.

i used alot of different injectable steroids BUT then about 2 years ago i was preparing for a contest and my stomach nerve got paralised meaning the nerve that make your stomach contract was paralysed leaving you bloated and with no apetite whatsoever...


after a number of tests and scans the doctors requested me to stop with everything and i immediately went off the steroids.


subsequently thereto i got better and my stomach was fine again.
now here is the thing.

every time i inject ANYTHING i mean low dosage of promabolan to high dosage of deca - it doesnt matter ...one week after the injection my stomach nerve is paralysed and i get off the stuff and then it gets better after a while again.

BUT if i take orals it does NOT AFFECT ME AT ALL???

everyone i talk too have never heard of this and i even tried different "brands" of injectables but still the same issue every time.

has anyone here ever heard of this
any possible advice?
i really want to compete again but don't know if i can be competative when only taking orals?

help please??
 
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