Ok, Me and my buddy are on week 3 of test prop only. First cycle. Hs been feelin like total shit. I mean no energy, dont feel like gettin out of bed, Shitty! He got off the gear. Week later, still shitty. He goes to the Dr. gets the blood work done. Test number was 29! Wtf? Dr said he just saw the lowest test levels ever! He is now on prescribed test. Looks like testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for him. Hes 41. Says he feels way better on prescribed test. Im week 5, fuckin reborn! Dont understand the two completly different results. I took his test and pinned it and no probs. Would his numbers fall that low after stopping for a week after 3 weeks of cycle? Dr has two sons that play for Nebraska and is very knowledgable on gear. What do ya think?
Explain this one!!
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KaiserSose
Smoke or get Smoked
Maybe you should get bloodwork done, his test levels should have been elevated if it was good gear, maybe it is bunk gear and your feeling of awesomeness is all in your head, ,but I don't know all I could come up with
DADAWG
Community Veteran
people on cycle tend to train better , eat better and get the proper rest so its possible your gear is junk and your benefitting from your own efforts.
Slacker702
New member
Being prop...and this is just my theory with a rook point of view, but seems as if the Test Prop may have shut down his HPTA. Now I imagine that since this was Prop, than that would mean that post cycle therapy (pct) should have began about 3 days after last pin.
I just wonder and doubt asking myself if one week after Prop without post cycle therapy (pct) is enough to put your test this low giving that your testicles did shut down as they should.
I'd also like to add that I have heard of users catch fevers at begining of cycles.
this is one of the reasons why first time users should always start with the basic Test first before continuing to cocktails.
I just wonder and doubt asking myself if one week after Prop without post cycle therapy (pct) is enough to put your test this low giving that your testicles did shut down as they should.
I'd also like to add that I have heard of users catch fevers at begining of cycles.
this is one of the reasons why first time users should always start with the basic Test first before continuing to cocktails.
MeatHead96
Jacked and Tan
Good post. This is what first came to mind. His HPTA is shut down and is no longer being given artifical test. The prop has left his system and no post cycle therapy (pct) has been done. That would not be the best time to get bloodwork done. Do post cycle therapy (pct), then get bloodwork done.
Well, Thats I was wondering since Propinate has such a short ester. But Dr said even so, His numbers should never be that low. Maybe the Dr's info is a lil off? God I really hope this shit is good. I about needed therapy after convincing and fighting with myself to pin. lol Fk! No other way to tell if its junk besides bloodwork? Im going to get it done just didnt want to run junk gear Sunday if thats the case. I would be able to see elevated test in blood test now right? 5 weeks,..
KaiserSose
Smoke or get Smoked
If your still on yes your test should be elevated, and yes that's the only real way to tell just how good your gear is, but 5 weeks in with prop I would expect you to have some solid weight gain, a boner all day long, a desire to stick that boner in anything alive or at least very recently alive, ha, some acne maybe, oily skin, ,any of the above,
KaiserSose
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Sounds like prop to me
MeatHead96
Jacked and Tan
If you are not experiencing any sides then you don't need to use the Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I personally prefer to always run one for preventative maintenance and to not be a moody bitch
KaiserSose
Smoke or get Smoked
Always have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand but hold off unless you see signs, or if your gyro prone then you should run one from the beginning. And if you didn't need one throughout your cycle you wont need one at all just run your nolva and clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) their are other post cycle therapy (pct) options but I use that one with good success
Misc
New member
if the gear was junk then why did it shut the other dudes HPTA down?
Good question. Another lil side today. Nuts feelin a lil tug. Tightness. Thats also a sign isnt it? And back to the original post. Why would the Dr. put him straight on test without trying to see if his body can still produce natural test. Seems counterproductive. How will we know if he is able to produce on his own. Just too many unaswered questions and lack of knowledge I guess. And what is HPTA?
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MeatHead96
Jacked and Tan
Yeah that would be a sign. First of all, you're friend should have never told the doc he was juicing. That can come back to bite him in the ass. But honestly that doctor is an itiot to put him on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) right off the bat when he was clearly shut down from steroids. Whos to say that he could not have recovered and had normal T levels?
HPTA stands for Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular Axis
In short, steroids shut your HPTA down which means your body is not producing its own testosterone. This is why we post cycle therapy (pct) to get our nuts to begin producing it again.
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Thats what I thought. I dont understand his thinking. He is pretty close to this Dr. as far as friends go but he might be shuttin him down for good then? Wtf? So in all actuallty, this Dr's a complete idiot and gonna fuck my buddy up....Should he Get off the prescribed
gear and try post cycle therapy (pct) now?
gear and try post cycle therapy (pct) now?
