Failed PCT, Triptorelin shot **Update**

Better not to. Maybe try a different source next time? It would be nice to avoid having to go on TRT for the rest of your life. Perhaps you could give RUI a try. I have always been very happy with their products.

And I still think it seems like you are taking something that is suppressing your HPTA. You typically do not see LH and FSH levels as low as yours in secondary hypogonadal males.

I love rui and arr too, I use them for other things. These meds literally looked like they were directly from a pharmacy, I checked reviews. I'd hope people wouldn't be faking pharm grade clones with a product that could ruin someone if it was fake. I did run tren and deca at different times for the first 3 months of the cycle, the last 3 months were test only. Nothing else I can think would still be suppressing me. This may help, I did a 12 week test only cycle back in 2012 with a kinda shitty pct and didn't start feeling normal for over 3 months after. Maybe my body just sucks. Life has a funny way of teaching us lessons.
 
I love rui and arr too, I use them for other things. These meds literally looked like they were directly from a pharmacy, I checked reviews. I'd hope people wouldn't be faking pharm grade clones with a product that could ruin someone if it was fake. I did run tren and deca at different times for the first 3 months of the cycle, the last 3 months were test only. Nothing else I can think would still be suppressing me. This may help, I did a 12 week test only cycle back in 2012 with a kinda shitty pct and didn't start feeling normal for over 3 months after. Maybe my body just sucks. Life has a funny way of teaching us lessons.

Sounds like you have made some very bad cycling decisions such as using extremely suppressive compounds for way too long coupled with poor PCT.

You best bet may be to run hCG for several months to reverse any testicular atrophy you may have and then run clomid/Nolva PCT again. But it very well may be the case that you have done irreversible damage already. Give it another try before going on TRT.

How old are you?

And yes, scumbags do fake things and put them in pretty packages. Unless you get it from a pharmacy with a prescription from a doctor you can never be 100% certain.
 
Sounds like you have made some very bad cycling decisions such as using extremely suppressive compounds for way too long coupled with poor PCT.

You best bet may be to run hCG for several months to reverse any testicular atrophy you may have and then run clomid/Nolva PCT again. But it very well may be the case that you have done irreversible damage already. Give it another try before going on TRT.

How old are you?

And yes, scumbags do fake things and put them in pretty packages. Unless you get it from a pharmacy with a prescription from a doctor you can never be 100% certain.

I know, I kick myself everyday. Watching yourself grow every week is an addiction. How would you have done PCT different? I felt like I gave it all I could. My test levels before all this were 579. I sometimes wonder if it's even worth wait the 3-6 months or however long to get barely back to that mediocre range. Stable trt dose that gives me 900+ test seems appealing. My girl has been so supportive but I don't think she could handle many more months of this no sex, and I don't blame her. Can only go down on her so much :P
 
Running those heavy and long cycles before your brain/endocrine system were fully developed is not helping you either. But not much you can do about that now other than prepare yourself for the real possibility that you may be on TRT for the rest of your life and you may not be able to have kids. I really hope you are able to get your HPTA working again.
 
Running those heavy and long cycles before your brain/endocrine system were fully developed is not helping you either. But not much you can do about that now other than prepare yourself for the real possibility that you may be on TRT for the rest of your life and you may not be able to have kids. I really hope you are able to get your HPTA working again.

Thank you for taking the time to dispel your advice, I appreciate the wise words. I have an apt at a trt clinic on Monday, I may just bite the bullet.
 
Running those heavy and long cycles before your brain/endocrine system were fully developed is not helping you either. But not much you can do about that now other than prepare yourself for the real possibility that you may be on TRT for the rest of your life and you may not be able to have kids. I really hope you are able to get your HPTA working again.

Another thing I have to ask. Does low test really make you infertile? Lets say you can't restart your HPTA and you have to go on TRT, can't you still get a girl pregnant? When I am on test my jizz loads are huge.
 
Another thing I have to ask. Does low test really make you infertile? Lets say you can't restart your HPTA and you have to go on TRT, can't you still get a girl pregnant? When I am on test my jizz loads are huge.

You can, but low FSH means lower sperm count.
 
Just jumping in here on old thread. I've been trying to get wife prego for over a year.
running
3000iu hcg x3 week (prescribed)
50 mg of clomid ed (prescribed)
just added 75iu of hmg

did triptorelin but I don't feel anything. Probably fake since all these peptide sites only want 50 bucks to 20 bucks for it.

my fsh lh levels were 0 that is why I started the hmg (doc won't prescribe it but I got it anyway)
test count is 300 which is still way to low for sperm production and volume. I put out 1ml of semen my last test.
Overall It looks like were adopting now. Its been over a year so I'll get more blood work in jan since I added the hmg.
 
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