feeling off on test deca cycle

[freighttrain]

Stats
42 years old. 5'7" and 190 lbs.
On trt
First cycle was 500mg test c
Adex .5 e3d
This cycle went great. Felt amazong and put on some qood muscle mass.

Second cycle
Test c 500mg week
Deca 300mg week
Dbol 20mg ed 4 weeks
Adex .5 eod
Caber .5 twice a week.

Now for both cycles I get blood work done at the begining, five weeks and at the end
This cycle I felt really good for the first 3 1/2 weeks then it started to turn.
Sex drive was great and then fell completely off. I feel like im a step behind.lethargic, spacey and a little emotional. Not aggressive more like blah or a very mild depression. Not like me at all
I went and had some labs and my blood work was good. Estrogen was at 40 and 42 was the cut off. Prolactin was in check as well. Test was greater than 1500. The only weird thing was my glucose syrum was at 60. I am usually in the low 80's and I did not fast.
So I generally feel like crap and I have never had ill effects from test so I dropped the deca at week four.
I think I may have bitten off more than I can chew with this cycle.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Try using paragraphs if you want people to help you. Ain't nobody got time for walls of text!

 

[freighttrain]

Sorry prince. I was feverishly blasting the keys on my phone.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you

 

[Megatron28]

Sorry prince. I was feverishly blasting the keys on my phone.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you

Can you please edit your post first for readability?

 

[freighttrain]

Yes guys. No problem. I do realize it's a bit much.lol

 

[halfwit]

I read it, but that's my superpower.

Can you clarify what you mean by libido? Lots of guys mistakenly interchange libido and erectile dysfunction; which are not the same thing at all. Libido being where you just don't feel interested in sex, but can get an erection. ED is where you're still hornier than a goat, but your johnson doesn't want to cooperate.

 

[freighttrain]

Halfwit
It's a bit of both really. When im on test only I think about sex ALOT!! LOL
My wife sometimes runs and hides. Now not much thought and less action. I can work my self into a stiffie but its a bit of work. I just feel kinda lifeless if that makes any sense
I reworked the crazy post and thanks for reading it.lol

 

[halfwit]

Halfwit
It's a bit of both really. When im on test only I think about sex ALOT!! LOL
My wife sometimes runs and hides. Now not much thought and less action. I can work my self into a stiffie but its a bit of work. I just feel kinda lifeless if that makes any sense
I reworked the crazy post and thanks for reading it.lol

You may be sensitive to estradiol. When was the blood test in relation to ceasing the dbol? Are you still at that dose of adex?

 

[freighttrain]

The blood test was two days before I stopped the dbol. Yes I am taking adex at .5 eod. Last cycle of 500 test I took .5 e3d and my estradiol was in the low 30's.

 

[halfwit]

The blood test was two days before I stopped the dbol. Yes I am taking adex at .5 eod. Last cycle of 500 test I took .5 e3d and my estradiol was in the low 30's.

You have probably crashed your estradiol as dbol is literally an estradiol BOMB - which you were controlling quite well, then it ended. I'd drop the AI for a week, then restart it at the E3.5D protocol.

 

[freighttrain]

Thank you. Should I continue caber for a week or so? I stopped the deca last Thursday.

 

[halfwit]

Thank you. Should I continue caber for a week or so? I stopped the deca last Thursday.

Caber won't hurt anything. I usually would continue it for a week or two, just in case of rebound. Let us know how it goes!

 

[freighttrain]

Thanks again and will do. Oh one more thing. I know deca has a half lfe of 14-16 days. If my sides are due to deca which I believe they are. About how many weeks untill enough of the 300mg are out of my system to start to feel more normal again.
I know thats a hard question to answer. I just figured maybe someone else experienced the same type of thing.
Thanks again for all your help

 

[halfwit]

Thanks again and will do. Oh one more thing. I know deca has a half lfe of 14-16 days. If my sides are due to deca which I believe they are. About how many weeks untill enough of the 300mg are out of my system to start to feel more normal again.
I know thats a hard question to answer. I just figured maybe someone else experienced the same type of thing.
Thanks again for all your help

Roughly two months for all hormone to be metabolized and excreted. Metabolites stick around for significantly longer, but they're not really active with regards to side effects.

Deca dick is completely different than what you're experiencing. Deca dick (should be called prolactin dick really) is essentially where you still really want to have sex, might be able to get it up, lose interest half way through, start going limp, and are often unable to ejaculate. It's very frustrating, and is why having caber/prami/bromo on hand if estradiol control isn't enough.

Been there, got the T-shirt - and have no desire to visit it again.

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

Not enough Dbol! 20mg is a waste. I wouldn't use less than 40, but would suggest 50. It causes nasty bloat though.

 

[freighttrain]

Not enough Dbol! 20mg is a waste. I wouldn't use less than 40, but would suggest 50. It causes nasty bloat though.

Thanks for the advice. I just wanted to run a small amount to see how I handle it.

Anyone else feel like crap on deca?

Anything I can do to help feel better sooner?
Thanks again for all the help and advice.

 

[megatron_ed]

I just finished what was supposed to be my last cycle ever and did deca along with test. It was my fifth cycle and I've done tren before among other things with no problems.

If I were to ever do another cycle, no way would I include deca. I can't speak for anyone else, but deca is not worth the side effects for me.

On cycle, I kept wondering where the weight gain was along with the addition of lean muscle mass. I was eating fine and i know deca takes forever, but I had the hardest time putting on size this time around.

Post pct, I did bloodwork and I was still shut down hard and my e2 was 6 and test less than 200! I know the libido effects of this, but my weight kept dropping even more and I lost that full look to my muscles. My memory sucked and I felt like an unmotivated zombie at times. Not to mention decreased strength and joint pain.

Now, I am nearing the end of pct #2, and feel much better but hope I can get back to normal soon.

With a more effective nor19 out there (tren), deca did not do it for me.

 

[megatron_ed]

I would also agree than 20mg is a waste. As far as feeling better? Keep hitting the gym. Also, if you are still on cycle, hcg can help but don't overdo it.

 

[freighttrain]

Mega
Thanks for the reply. Thats EXACTLY how I feel. Like an unmotivated zombie. I feel the effects more mentally than anything. I liked my personality.lol

I dumped deca at week 4. Im still running test c at 500mg week. Adex now .5 three times a week. My eating and training has been good just day ro day life seems to bring little joy.

I also just donated blood ro the scrap heap so another tiny bit just left.lol

 

[megatron_ed]

Curious. Which ugl you using? I had pinnacle and psl.