Fellow lifting mate is running Test/Tren also...

[SecOffTes]

He's running an almost identical cycle that I am.

He doesn't have any puffiness in his nipples, or any knots or really any noticeable changes (no tenderness etc etc). However for some reason he said he felt compelled to pinch his nipples I guess checking for knotting and said a small amount of clear liquid came out.

750/mg Sust/week
350/mg Tren A/week
Arimidex .5mg EoD for estrogen control

He wants me to ask if this means he's slipping in to the realm of prolactin gyno, because he isn't taking Prami or any of the alternatives.

He's also considering stopping the Tren all together because his availability for the cycle has been reduced and he's concerned he won't reach his goals. If this is a prolactin build up, would stopping the Tren resolve the issue? Or would he still need to get Prami etc to avoid gyno?

I'll see him at the gym tomorrow morning.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I mean if he is sure that liquid came out then ya its P gyno............but its odd cause as much as people tout P gyno on tren it actually doesnt happen much. its much more common with deca.

 

[SecOffTes]

I was just doing some more reading, I need to stress he said it was less than an eyedropper drop out of each. This thread I'm reading says a lot of people are able to just do that in general, on or off steroids.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i dont know bro-ive squeezed mine a few times and ive never got anything to come out-but who knows. I will tell you this, if i was sure i got something to come out-i would be getting bloods done or getting some dope agonist.

 

[SecOffTes]

Yea Oak another friend of mine has a fair sized knot in one nipple from deca. After the thread I just read I'm not convinced it's really prolactin gyno or lactation, I think it's just fluid. But either way, if it is prolactin build up what does he need to do?

Start prami or one of the alternatives? Or would stopping tren fix him up?

 

[SecOffTes]

Okay I'll relay the message. What are the recommended dope agonists? He was kind of like me and feared the side effects of most of them, especially Prami.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Yea Oak another friend of mine has a fair sized knot in one nipple from deca. After the thread I just read I'm not convinced it's really prolactin gyno or lactation, I think it's just fluid. But either way, if it is prolactin build up what does he need to do?

Start prami or one of the alternatives? Or would stopping tren fix him up?

stopping tren or prami/dostinex would help. honestly i dont know too much cause it has never happened to me.

if you get caber get the pills

 

[SecOffTes]

So do you ever run dope agonists when on Tren? Or have you not needed to?

 

[SecOffTes]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...iquid-coming-out-my-nipple-when-squeezed.html

Would B6 be a better alternative? If I recall it's much cheaper and there are no sides. Maybe I'll start using it lolol

 

[mason95]

B-6 has nowhere near the ability to reduce prolactin as Prami. They're just not comparable.

He should just man up and take some Prami. The sides are quite tolerable if you follow the titration guidelines. Actually I miss the sides, it helped me get to sleep until my body adjusted to it.

 

[SecOffTes]

Yea I don't doubt *prami* works better, but if it's a safe alternative why not? Obviously his levels aren't through the roof or I'm certain he'd be showing more definitive signs it's actually gyno.

 

[RJ]

Yea I don't doubt B6 works better, but if it's a safe alternative why not? Obviously his levels aren't through the roof or I'm certain he'd be showing more definitive signs it's actually gyno.

you have no idea what his levels are bro. Thats the problem. People think that and then it gets worse. He may not have 'gyno' per se, but high prolactin is bad regardless. Either way, I'd get my blood work done or stop being a cheap ass pussy and get a dope agonist. Either that or stop the Tren, but why do that? Finish up strong with ancilary coverage and know better next time.

And get him on here to post, why do people have their "friends" post for them?

 

[SecOffTes]

Lol RJH, he isn't really an internet/forum kind of guy.

Yea, I told him to get blood work. I'm actually going to get mine too.

 

[MadChild]

I used to be able to do that after running dbols with no post cycle therapy (pct) when i was in highschool lol. It went away over time took about a year or two but i dnt have ugly nipps so i wasnt to worried abput it haha. Id say finish the cycle and stay off until gone and run a good post cycle therapy (pct)

 

[eGGz]

B-6 has nowhere near the ability to reduce prolactin as Prami. They're just not comparable.

He should just man up and take some Prami. The sides are quite tolerable if you follow the titration guidelines. Actually I miss the sides, it helped me get to sleep until my body adjusted to it.

Please explain or link to the "the titration guidelines."

Thank you

 

[mason95]

Please explain or link to the "the titration guidelines."

Thank you

Search under ItalianoSPO's posts, he posted a good writeup on it.

I'd say start out slow at .125mg before bed. Maybe 3-4 days later bump to .25mg before bed. It may take over two weeks for your body to get used to it to where its tolerable for daytime.
I take 2mg everyday and I can only handle .5mg if I have to function. But the 1.5 before bed is the nuts for getting to sleep.

It effects people differently. Sides include nausea, lethargy, sleepiness, stuffy nose, increased sex drive, in some waking up in the middle of the night is an issue.

the way it works is that it blocks/turns off dopamine receptors while the medicine is active. Your body responds by producing more dopamine receptors to remain in homeostasis. When the medicine wears off the original receptors are "turned back on" providing an overall increase in dopamine activity-and who doesn't love that?

 

[eGGz]

Thank you for the info mason95
Very informative.
Cheers ... eGGz

 

[Greybeard]

I did .75 last night before getting in bed. Told the wife I was hoping not to puke all over the new carpet.... (Wasn't joking...)

But actually I did sleep pretty damn good and no ill feelings when I woke up. I'm pretty happy about that and will do the same amount tonight.

I tried that dose in the morning before and it made me ill as hell and exhausted all day long...

I'll try splitting up the dose like Mason.

 

[mason95]

The one thing I'm a little fuzzy on is what actually blocks prolactin. Or rather, does an evening dose still block prolactin during the day? Can't explain it off the top of my head but I would assume it does. However, with the Deca and Tren I'm running I was starting to have reduced libido. Since I've been dosing in the AM it seems to be working better. It may very well be a placebo effect though.
my .02 fwiw

 

[Greybeard]

I'm still looking into Dostinex (cabergoline) pills. Just ain't digging the ordering process!

Even then they are pricey...

I was considering throwing in a few weeks of Deca with my current blast but not with my existing Prolactin / Progesterone levels....