Few questions about first cycle :)

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SamBBK

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First ever cycle,so I'm gonna be running 500 test a week,most likely shoot 250 Monday,250 Thursday.

What test is best on its own ? Enanthate, Cypionate, Proprionate ?

I'm gonna have arimidex on hand.

Clomid or nolva for pct ?

I'm gonna grab some HCG aswell but I don't get why people run it at the same time as running test because test shits you down and hcg brings it up so I don't get why your telling your body to do two differant things ? Shouldn't I run HCG the last 2 weeks of cycle ?
 
I think this is answered many times but here is my opinion:

For first cycle:
1-12 week (or 1-10 week): testosterone enanthate 500mg/week (250mg twice a week example monday and thursday)
Use arimidex (through the full cycle) to avoid high estro level! 0.25mg/eod
Start PCT 15 days after last shot.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
nolvadex 40/40/20/20

or

1-4 week: testosterone propionate 3x100mg/week
1-12 week: test. enan. 500mg/week
Use arimidex (through the full cycle) to avoid high estro level! 0.25mg/eod
Start PCT 15 days after last shot:
Clomid 100/100/50/50
nolvadex 40/40/20/20

I think the second cycle is better because propionate work quicker than t.enan. and you see how your body react by testo.

I use the second too for my first cycle and have a great effect and gain. But you must know you have eat good quality food and eat more too to gain more :)
 
Test Enanthate or Test Cypionate for 12 weeks. 400-500mg per week.
Arimidex dosing varies as you're not sure how you would react. Maybe start low dose until blood work is back so you know where your E2 is.
HCG 500 iu twice a week (split into two injections like test)
Clomid and Nolva for PCT 4-6 weeks.

I wouldn't worry about trying to get everything kick started with prop. Unless you just want to pin more times per week. THat's up to you.

HCG isn't as simple as raising your testosterone. To keep it simple, HCG should be used as a prevention to prevent the shrinking of the testes.

If you want more information than that you should do your own research. Goodluck to you
 
SamBBK said:
What about HCG ?
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You can use HCG if your "balls need" it :) My balls and libido dont decrease after this cycle so I dont use HCG. I use HCG for a longer cycle (16-24 week cycles) only. But everybody different. U can read a lot about how to use HCG in this forum.....just search it ;-)
 
I love prop myself as there is more actual test cuz the ester is lighter, and you get less bloat, but for a first cycle you should use e or c as you want to get used to pinning first. Hcg isn't just for your balls size. It's going to speed up recovery by quite a bit. It's a very good idea to run it throughout at 250 2x a week. Our you can blast it at the end, but I prefer running it throughout
 
SamBBK said:
First ever cycle,so I'm gonna be running 500 test a week,most likely shoot 250 Monday,250 Thursday.

What test is best on its own ? Enanthate, Cypionate, Proprionate ?

I'm gonna have arimidex on hand.

Clomid or nolva for pct ?

I'm gonna grab some HCG aswell but I don't get why people run it at the same time as running test because test shits you down and hcg brings it up so I don't get why your telling your body to do two differant things ? Shouldn't I run HCG the last 2 weeks of cycle ?
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Enanthate or cyp if you use prop u will inject ed or eod. Use longer esters. Plus prop has more potential for estrogenic activity because of the faster absorption at least what I have been told.
 
if your going to be cycling and not cruising I would choose prop. Eod pins aren't fun but shorter cycles would be better for recovery.
 
Hcg is the chit. It keeps test production up. Since the balls never really shut down completely, they recover faster and better. Hcg is great. It's just annoying having to reconstitute it in bac water, then keeping it in a fridge. Worth it though
 
Black Beard said:
Hcg is the chit. It keeps test production up. Since the balls never really shut down completely, they recover faster and better. Hcg is great. It's just annoying having to reconstitute it in bac water, then keeping it in a fridge. Worth it though
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HCG does NOT keep test production up while on cycle, it aids in a quicker recovery of natural test levels after PCT
 
SamBBK said:
Most common sides with test-e ??
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Pretty easy to search that bro.
-increased recovery
-increased muscle growth
-increased confidence / sense of well-being (very subjective)
-can cause or speed up hairloss if prone
-acne/bacne
-aggression
-increased blood pressure
-negative impact on lipid profile
-
 
SamBBK said:
First ever cycle,so I'm gonna be running 500 test a week,most likely shoot 250 Monday,250 Thursday.

What test is best on its own ? Enanthate, Cypionate, Proprionate ?

I'm gonna have arimidex on hand.

Clomid or nolva for pct ?

I'm gonna grab some HCG aswell but I don't get why people run it at the same time as running test because test shits you down and hcg brings it up so I don't get why your telling your body to do two differant things ? Shouldn't I run HCG the last 2 weeks of cycle ?
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You've prepared well, so let's lay it out for u

Test enanthate or cypionate 500mg per week (250mg mon, 250mg thurs)
Arimidex 0.5mg eod (begin week 2)
HCG 500-1000iu eod (last week of cycle, and one more week)
Clomid 50mg/nolva 40mg ed for 30-40 days (begin 21 days after last test injection)
 
Well test-e and test-c are pretty much the same, long esters, and test-p is a short ester.... just run test-c or test-e... don't split hairs
 
^^I am quite sure that it does keep test production alive. Pointless as it may be to your cycle, it makes recovery a walk in the park. If I'm wrong I'm sorry, but I'm almost positive I'm not
 
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