few upper body pics, week 9

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I do believe the gear has way to much hype that I am running
Maybe there tren just isnt right, did research last night and others said the same thingon dif forums
 
And to be honest the gear has come ina solid state that last few orders, so go figure
Thy didnt come good for it, and had to throe it on a hotplate to bring it bsck to a liquid state
 
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Even with diet and trainig being sub par u should still be growing, I hit every muscle group once a week, sometimes 2, 6 days a week in the gym, take a day off when I feel like it
Mon- chest, incline bb, flat bench, db flies, pec deck, incline fly's
Back- hammer strength pull down, bb rows, deads, wide grip rows machine rows
Legs, leg curls, ham curls, squats, leg press, chalf raises (acl has slight tear)
Shoulders- bb shoulder press, machine press, db side raises, db rear delts, db front raises, machine side raises
Arms- tri dips, tri rope pushdowns, close bench press, db skull crushers, biceps- 21's, incline db curls, one arm preacher curls, machine curls

How long have you been doung this exact routine? Also I would puy at least one drop-set per muscle group that day. I usually just pick something at random based what angles I hit that day. Coulf save them til the last thing you do before you head out the door. As a "finisher". Nothing gets me that good ole shortbus pump like a dropset.
 
And to be honest the gear has come ina solid state that last few orders, so go figure
Thy didnt come good for it, and had to throe it on a hotplate to bring it bsck to a liquid state

I honestly have no idea how gear can go to ''solid'' state. We'Re talking residue or a real solid state? That would be unprofessional from that ugl.. you should ask that question on the chemical study forum, homebrewer bro's probably have the answer to that; Its no big deal cause you just have to heat it but still, this should not happen.
 
i have no desire to get on a stage. im a picky eater and wont eat a lot of the foods needed to get super lean, and im also not into the politics of it all. im content with being fairly lean all year round and eating whatever i want.

anyway genetic response might play a role but you put a decent dose of tren into anyones body and they are gonna get results. show me someone who pins 500mg/week of tren and gets no results(provided they are eating food and training regularly) and ill give up bodybuilding forever lol. tren is a miracle drug plain and simple

can you get some more videos of you training this week and post them so i can see? dont worry about guys on here calling you a pussy for the weight you are using, and dont specifically do good form on the videos in order to prove a point. take videos of your actual working sets THE WAY YOU'VE BEEN DOING THEM and let me see the videos. if you do that we can offer better advice about your form.

also post up an entire outline of what exercises/sets/and rep range you do for each specific body part so we can evaluate that also. it'll take you a bit of time to get that typed up and get the videos but at least you'll get solid training advice then.

dont be so quick to call the gear bunk. let's make sure your training is solid. only you know what you eat so if you're being honest about your diet then we know that is in check. and the last piece of the puzzle will be the gear you're using.

I agree with this. Like stated, something is off here. Matt, once you hit rock bottom, all you can do is go up from there. Now is the time to put it all out on the line. Post genuine videos of some of your compound lifts for an honest critique. Also, get some blood work as well. As for your gear, I seriously doubt it is bunk. Also being that you have been on solid for 2 years straight and haven't made any gains points to a diet/training issue. There is also a slight possibility that you have some other hormone issues like thyroid, etc. When I was hypothyroid, my muscles looked flat and I didn't see great progress even while supplementing testosterone. However, I am leaning towards diet being the main culprit. My advice would be to come off completely, instead of buying more gear, hit up 3J and work with Gram on your training. You have ignored everything else so this is my last constructive response to you. More gear is not the answer. You have been on for 2 years and the results are not fascinating. Have you changed your physique in 2 years? Yes a little. However for the amount of gear you have taken, it just doesn't add up. More is not always better.
 
Well it hss happened to others to I read, they claimed it was do to the weather here in canada, never got that from the previous lab I used
 
Not stating the gear is bunk at all, stating it could be underdosed as others claim it is overdosed, I believe there is way to much hype, and people sre affraid to post anything neg about this lab on here, on other forums they say the same, not the only one seeig this
Bro I posted my diet, posted my training my strength is shit, I had better strength just running test solie
Maybe its there tren, who knows, switching labs tho
 
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Not stating the gear is bunk at all, stating it could be underdosed as others claim it is overdosed, I believe there is way to much hype, and people sre affraid to post anything neg about this lab on here, on other forums they say the same, not the only one seeig this
Bro I posted my diet, posted my training my strength is shit, I had better strength just running test solie

The only way to know would be to lab test it.. or maybe like some guys said, you need higher dose; I hope it is dosed correctly considering the price
 
Yeah no shit, there prices r high, then they cut me a deal on shipping, that lasted a few shipments then they gave me a run around about shipping 25.00 dollars to ship as I live in canada as well
 
As with some labs they do well when service is low, then they get all this hype add more customers and there service and quality turns for the worst
 
Hey rip if I had thyroid issues wouldnt that show up in my blood panel, got bloods done before this blast, everything checked out okay
 
Hey rip if I had thyroid issues wouldnt that show up in my blood panel, got bloods done before this blast, everything checked out okay

Yeah if you blood tested and your thyroid was out of wack, it would have shown up.

Now loook what you guys did. Now he's blaming it on the gear.

lol. I was thinking the same thing. It is just highly unlikely it is his gear. Being how cheap testosterone is, its rarely faked. So even with just 200-500mg per week of test for the last 2 years straight give or take, there would be gains regardless. I am seriously leaning towards his diet. No way all the gear he has ran is bunk. No way.
 
i dont get night sweats, i can fall asleep at anytime, strength goes up a little but not like guys on here talk about….when im on tren and mine is good. i also dont experience many tren side effects but that isnt an indication of bunk gear bro
I get night sweats if Im lean, I get real crazy dreams though, they seem to go around in circles and never really go anywhere.
 
Hey rip if I had thyroid issues wouldnt that show up in my blood panel, got bloods done before this blast, everything checked out okay

If you have thyroid issues it will only show up with thyroid panel. Typical blood work may or may not include it depending on the lab and what panels you requested.
 
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