fifth cycle help.. newbie, cheaper alternative, deca reviews?

[shaco1010]

it's my fifth cycle i'm wanting to start.. i know they say don't start if you don't have the money but yeah

i'm laid off in the winter and am starting a job soon making 15$ more an hour, so i'm wanting to start right now, long story short,

i'm 28 years old, 205 pounds, 12-14 percent body fat, i'm not sure what i really want to accomplish anymore, my last cycle was test/tren , lower test dosage, and it was my first tren run, i didn't want to get off, i had veins daily coming out in places i never even knew was possible

but anywyas

my first cycle

was test 500mg/week

second was test 500mg/week, dbol kickstart for 4 weeks, pct and ai etc.

third was test/eq/dbol

fourth was test/tren e, and winstrol

this next cycle i wanted to run tren, but my source is REALLY expensive for tren, i was thinking masteron as an alternative, but it's just as expensive.. eq is cheap, but i hear it's bad'

this all being said, my last cycle i bought 5 bottles of tren yet they accidnetly mailed me 5 bottles of deca, they made it right by sending me tren e, and let me keep the deca, never thought i'd use it, but test is DIRT cheap from my source, so if i already have the deca, i might run test/deca, i hear you get pretty bloated from deca, and that's what i kind of wanted to avoid, i liked the leaness of tren, and wanted to try masteron, but it's so expensive.

this being said, in 2 months when i start my new job, money won't be an issue, so i can kind of run a bulker now, pct and later in the year or next year, do a cutter.

any thoughts on deca/test cycle, most people run deca before tren but i never did, a mistake? probably, but i wasn't aware of forums and etc that were dedicated to helping others out.

 

[shaco1010]

also forgot to mention, test is really all i'd need.

i have ai leftover from last cycle and also pct lined up since i bought way more than needed last two cycles

another thing is that the DECA EXPIRES march of this year.. another reason i don't want to see it go to waste

 

[oldmusclemike]

I really don't understand these Q's about people usually run this or that before they run this or that... so well who cares. You have a few cycles under your belt so it is what you make of it. It seems everything is ok so there's the answer.
Now this thing about Deca and bloat...huh by now you should know that it is your diet and how you run everything. You can even diet into a show with Deca. Ah not many do but it is done. Listen Deca is an anabolic steroid. A 19 nor steroid. Understand the Deca profile and run as what you want your cycle to go...

Except for a few items and maybe Tren, don't let the compound dictate how you wanna run your cycle. Remember first steroids help you do what you are trying to accomplish with your training and diet. You can cut in Deca you can cut on any compound.

A grain of salt here and there with my post but that's it most generally.

PS: keep your E2 in very close check and have some Caber on hand as a prolactin inhibitor. I recommend more time BW when running Deca.

You are 28 and forums weren't around or you were unaware ?

 

[Teutonic]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Mike summed it you and deca up nicely^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well done Mike.


Bro.
Welcome and please hang with us. I ve been competitive in PL and BB and Phys/ gay porn longer than u been alive and only you can learn what s the magic combo of food training food training REST REST REST and gear to seal the deal.
All AAS have good qualities and sides. All are diffrant with each drug, the person using them and MOST are dose dependent especially with side efffects.

ex--500 test is great !
1000 t IS BETTER ?
IF YOU STEP BACK AND DO AN EMPIRICAL over view/ analysis w positive vs negative no it s f k n not.
U delve into 19 nor s and strong oral s it s potential for sides overwhelming even counter measures becomes apparent.

Lil bit s mate...learn your bodies reaction to x drug and eat eat eat. Foods the most anabolic thing u can put in ur mouth--------and eat pussy...often as ejac x 13 a month is a proven test booster anti oxidant stress reliever. (Men s Fitness 11/16, I think...)

 

[Roush]

you've already got test and deca, so make use of it . you mention masteron , well that can be ran along with the test and deca for some synergy and to bind to shbg and free up more test to be used. i ran test, deca, mast cycle awhile back and do recommend the stack. something like this
250mg test
400mg deca
500mg mast
14 weeks

mast won't bloat you or convert to estrogen . run an Ai for the test and deca and keep control of your diet and you won't bloat much with those either.

 

[Teutonic]

OP

Homework assignment son
Anti Gynocomastia ( bitch tits ) test---

An Ai is used for ? And how does it do its "thing ".
As opposed to a SERM.???
What are the 2 most commonly used anti progesterone drug s ?
Cab------
Pram-----
What is it that they be doing in the mammary hood ?
You see son it is not rocket science but it ain t beer and weed and it s YOUR ONLY BODY so head down , go read a lot . Then be axin me sum querstune s so we se can be gettin yo ass an edge u mocation Straight out of Compton w respect to using drug s but safely to get the look.
In the 80 s (yes I m that g d old and yes I know I m feeble old fuck ) we had no inkling of what you young buck s have available to you with respect to controlling side s retaining gain. I d get off..and in 2 weeks shrink and not pull 405 DL S for 12 rep s and FREAK -PIN PIN PIN.
I was making my own coffee creamer from my bitch tit s .Was that from 1000 mg test or 1000 mg deca or from 130 dbol for 42 month s ?
READY
SET
GO
Post a piccie---dare you.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Ah hahahaaa There is only one Teutonic like the real Teutonic. Strange , cool and funny. Oh and Bad ass !!

 

[blakey]

Ah hahahaaa There is only one Teutonic like the real Teutonic. Strange , cool and funny. Oh and Bad ass !!

Teut my German brother from another mother

 

[oldmusclemike]

Such silly boys

 

[Milton]

Hey beer and weed can be tricky
Grass and beer your in the clear
Beer and grass your on your ass
Words to live by

Like to say that I'll drink to that, but then again, Ill drink to just about anything

 

[blakey]

Like to say that I'll drink to that, but then again, Ill drink to just about anything

You must be half Aussie;-)

 

[Milton]

so your saying that if you smoke weed and then drink beer you'll be fine ,, but if you start drinking first and then smoke weed, your going to be on your ass?

man do wonder i get F'd up, i've been doing it wrong all these years huh

its the other way around.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Da,da,da,daaaa I am sooo confused

 

[Milton]

op not come back.

 

[appleton111]

looking forward to your logs on your 5th cycle op?

 

[soldier74]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Mike summed it you and deca up nicely^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well done Mike.


Bro.
Welcome and please hang with us. I ve been competitive in PL and BB and Phys/ gay porn longer than u been alive and only you can learn what s the magic combo of food training food training REST REST REST and gear to seal the deal.
All AAS have good qualities and sides. All are diffrant with each drug, the person using them and MOST are dose dependent especially with side efffects.

ex--500 test is great !
1000 t IS BETTER ?
IF YOU STEP BACK AND DO AN EMPIRICAL over view/ analysis w positive vs negative no it s f k n not.
U delve into 19 nor s and strong oral s it s potential for sides overwhelming even counter measures becomes apparent.

Lil bit s mate...learn your bodies reaction to x drug and eat eat eat. Foods the most anabolic thing u can put in ur mouth--------and eat pussy...often as ejac x 13 a month is a proven test booster anti oxidant stress reliever. (Men s Fitness 11/16, I think...)

U R one crazy s.o.b. brother...that's why I love ya tho!!!! lmao^^^

 

[oldmusclemike]

op not come back.

You and Tuet ran him off. Gone in the wind now. I think you guys are mean. We may have lost OP for ever