first cycle, did some research, would appreicate any tips/suggestions!

[mlifter]

I have yet to start this cycle, wanna gather everything I need before hand.

Test C 250mg/2xweek (10 week cycle)

I have letro on hand, but I wasn't sure if I should use nolva or armidex instead? Also im under the impression that these should only be used on cycle if I notice gyno symptoms?

Is Nolva enough for post cycle therapy (pct)? OR is Clomid a better option? I heard i need to wait about 2 weeks after last shot before starting PCT... correct?

Please feel free to offer any tips/advice.

 

[caboy]

That sounds like a good start. You might want to extend it for 12 weeks. Twice weekly injection. If you have arimidex I would stick with that.run it during your cycle to keep bloating etc down. Stay away from the letro it is really potent and gets rid of like 98% of your estrogen and you need some and yes run the clomid 2 weeks after your last pin at 100/50/50 Also forgot what are your stats

 

[mlifter]

5'4 185lbs, body fat is probably 20%, im waiting until next month to start cycle, tryin to lose as much body fat i can until then.

Run arimidex alongside test? alright... what dosage? Also I believe I only have enough for 10 weeks, otherwise id prob stretch it out to 12.

So clomid over nolva? Any reason in particular? I already have nolva so I thought id ask... thanks for the tips

 

[Nessa]

i would suggest Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) too.. its always nice to add it in. it helps your testies get back to normal size.

 

[JScondition]

5'4 185lbs, body fat is probably 20%, im waiting until next month to start cycle, tryin to lose as much body fat i can until then.

So clomid over nolva? Any reason in particular? I already have nolva so I thought id ask... thanks for the tips

What is your age? If you are going to cut... you need to start your cut and wait till you have a sticking point with loss of weight. Then you introduce your cycle to keep losing weight and maintain your muscle mass/growth. If you have a set date you could miss out on lbs you could have lost while not on gear and that would be a waste. Ideally you want to get down to 12% bf before you even consider running a cycle due to the higher side effects that will be associated with introducing compounds into your sysltem while at a high bf (high bp, high cholesterol, etc.)

What does your diet look like. Because if your diet does not fit the diet for a cut then you will no doubt put on more muscle and more fat and be bigger than when you were before. If you could post up what you plan on working with for your diet so we can give you a little rundown.

I would run nolva and clomid... they are two different compounds and will work nicely together. I run nolva 40 for a couple days then bump it down to 20 for the first week then go to 20/20/20 for the last 3 weeks of post cycle therapy (pct). I do this cause nolva can be harsh. It has more side effects (including blindness) that most people don't consider. Plus it reaches its max potential at 20mg/day 40 is overkill to me. I also run clomid with nolva at 100/50/50/50.

 

[Ythrashin]

Nolva,Clomid or both will work for post cycle therapy (pct). Its been debated what the best protocol is for recovery. IN THE END ITS JUST PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

Some people have negitive side effects from clomid,some from Nolva....using both together will make it hard to tell which one is causing sides...

I would choose just Nolva and a small dose of Aromasin through PCT.

 

[Ythrashin]

I would run nolva and clomid... they are two different compounds and will work nicely together. I run nolva 40 for a couple days then bump it down to 20 for the first week then go to 20/20/20 for the last 3 weeks of post cycle therapy (pct). I do this cause nolva can be harsh. It has more side effects (including blindness) that most people don't consider.

Both can cause vision problems. I usually hear of vision problems more from clomid.Those problems being just temporary visual disturbances...

Blindness is a VERY VERY rare side effect of both climid and nolva.

 

[mlifter]

26 years old, diet right now consists of high protein, mod carbs (chicken, steak, eggs, and rice are the base for my diet). Cardio about every day as well.

Thanks for the tips guys, most ppl at my gym dont do pct, let alone know what it is.

 

[mlifter]

Does using Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle inhibit gains? Ive also heard some people say they only use it if gyno symptoms pop up, and then dont use it when the problem goes away? ive also heard of people using nolva instead of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for gyno symptoms?

 

[Ythrashin]

Nolva can be used for gyno symptoms if nothing else is available. Nolva or clomid were your only options back before AI's.

Nolva will only help prevent gyno but will do nothing to reduce total estrogen. So if you are bloat up or have other high estro issues Nolva will not help...

Nolva is best saved for PCT.

Using a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during your cycle will not reduce gains it will just reduce water weight/bloat if used correctly.

 

[mlifter]

Nolva can be used for gyno symptoms if nothing else is available. Nolva or clomid were your only options back before AI's.

Nolva will only help prevent gyno but will do nothing to reduce total estrogen. So if you are bloat up or have other high estro issues Nolva will not help...

Nolva is best saved for PCT.

Using a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during your cycle will not reduce gains it will just reduce water weight/bloat if used correctly.

Thanks bro, repped... how should I go about dosing Arimidex during cycle then?

Also, for PCT if I were to use nolva would a dosing protocol of 40/40/20/20 suffice? Thanks again

 

[Ythrashin]

.25mg ed up it to.50mg ed if signs of high estro hit ya...