first cycle ever, test, anavar

[zoolander007]

And oh btw!

Propecia ( finasteride) has soooooo much less side effects than Accutane for acne!

Accutane is known to be extremely powerfull and its on top of the list of drugs with the most side effects in high doses.

But you know what, that didnt affect my choice of taking it! I had lot of acne when I was 15-16, and was the last resort, and my dermatologist prescriped it to me for 4 months but in regular dose, not in high dose.

And I had quite a few sides from taking it it's true, but in completely changes my skin and prevent it from making scars. 95-98% of my acne was gone after 4 months!

So even with the many sides from Accutane, I dont regret it. Im very happy I did it

 

[hellawaits77]

hey, ok stop arguing guys, I mean thanks for the advices, Scarz specially because of the many questions I had loll!

But Robo, it's not cool you had a lot of sides effects when you were on Propecia. But like Scarz said and like all studies show, its only less than 5% , probably even closer than 2%. because I dont have any sides from taking Propecia and I've been taking it for 3 years and a half. And I know many friends who just like me have no problems taking it and there very happy to keep their hair, at least for couple years more.

And btw , RObbo you said that Propecia gives you a limp dick! well that def sucks for you, but once again its less than 5% bro. I have 0 problem getting a hard erection loll! No problem with my libido either, I think about sex at least 10 times a day, it hasnt changed from when I was 16 lol!

So the bottom line is, I know I wont keep my hair forever, but since im taking Propecia It slowed down quite a lot and Im very happy about it. Plus my sides effects are second to none !

So im starting next week my low dose of Test with Anavar and im positif it wont affect a lot my hair.

happy new year guys!

Cool Man, good luck. I'm in your boat and have a similar situation. Glad to hear that Propecia has worked for ya.

 

[1badmofo]

Why take a DHT steroid like anavar, and then turn around and take a DHT blocker?

 

[Scarz]

it's not a dht blocker. it inhibits (prevents, stops) testosterone from converting to dht.
will not negate var's effectiveness

 

[1badmofo]

it's not a dht blocker. it inhibits (prevents, stops) testosterone from converting to dht.
will not negate var's effectiveness

Right, but I'm saying why add a DHT to your system when that is what you are trying to inhibit?

 

[Scarz]

"The Dutasteride/finasteride should not negate the effects of anavar. Remember 5-AR inhibitors just prevents testesterone from aromatizing into dihydrotestosterone, but when a compound is a dihydrotestosterone derivative, meaning that the compound has basically already aromatized into dihydrotestosterone, then finasteride's chemical interaction is rendered completely ineffective. With testesterone, which would be the test e in your case, 5-AR inhibitors will definately play a role in negating these compounds anabolic/androgenic effects. Remember the process of aromatization, i.e. when test basically breaks down into estrogen and dihydrotestosterone, is an important process in building strength and size. Both dihydrotestosterone and estrogen play an intrinsic role when it comes to muscle building and development. BUT if you are using finasteride/Dutasteride you are effectively blocking the test from aromatizing into dihydrotestosterone, and therefore you are missing out on the anabolic and androgenic effects that dihydrotestosterone brings to the table....
So back to ur original question the finasteride/Dutasteride should have no effect on the var"
source unknown-but saved me a lot of typing

 

[Shaptown]

I believe what 1badmofo is saying scarz, is why would one attempt to prevent the conversion of compounds to DHT (believing their MPB is largely in part due to DHT conversion), and then go ahead and introduce a DHT-derivative.....basically he's saying go ahead and use fina but dont use DHT derivatives to prevent hairloss, or go all the way and say fuck hair.....use DHT derivatives but dont bother blocking the DHT conversion with finasteride.

 

[dialtone]

<--agrees with shap and mofo.

 

[zoolander007]

look theres no need to argue about this any longer guys, from what ive read and what couple of consummers of Anavar (var) on this forum, it's pretty much the safest steroids with minor sides. Safe for hair, acne,kidneys, no estrogenes so no gyno, it's a mild roids but it gives hardnest and quality results, if doing a proper post cycle therapy (pct) after and not going in high doses ( in high doses its liver toxic) its very safe.

So my choice is already made and my gear is bought. Anavar (var) is safe for hair and Test in low dose with my Finasteride should be well tolerable.

So, I,ll keep you guys posted. thanks

 

[dialtone]

i didnt even read most of the posts, but i can tell you that Anavar (var) is not safe on the hair and is not affected by finasteride. and the hardness you are referring to is only visible at single digit bf%. just throwing that in there...good luck.

 

[Scarz]

var is very safe for the hair dtone

 

[dialtone]

not from my experience dude. i know for some it is, which is cool, but not for me.

 

[Scarz]

for most it is, not some. it's very rare anyone would experience a shed with Anavar (var) , but it's not 100% safe at all. it is very safe and the safest out of all the steroids (primo is in question). so u finally admit to running a Anavar (var) only cycle

 

[1badmofo]

I believe what 1badmofo is saying scarz, is why would one attempt to prevent the conversion of compounds to DHT (believing their MPB is largely in part due to DHT conversion), and then go ahead and introduce a DHT-derivative.....basically he's saying go ahead and use fina but dont use DHT derivatives to prevent hairloss, or go all the way and say fuck hair.....use DHT derivatives but dont bother blocking the DHT conversion with finasteride.

Yes, that was the point that I had in mind

 

[1badmofo]

So my choice is already made and my gear is bought. Anavar (var) is safe for hair and Test in low dose with my Finasteride should be well tolerable.

So, I,ll keep you guys posted. thanks

Cool, hair issues aside, you will love that cycle. It could take 2-4 months after the cycle before you know about the hair effects.

 

[Scarz]

badmofo finasteride used with test is the only time it will inhibit SOME gains, hardly noticable. I have not noticed any differense in results when using test both on or off finasteride's use. i hope that helps. ure right, but why say fuck the hair? it makes no sense. hair loss is permanent. why not try to use steroids wisely and make gains AND keep ure hair?

 

[dialtone]

for most it is, not some. it's very rare anyone would experience a shed with Anavar (var) , but it's not 100% safe at all. it is very safe and the safest out of all the steroids (primo is in question). so u finally admit to running a Anavar (var) only cycle

Anavar (var) is very safe, i agree. i have just noticed hair loss when i introduced in some cycles...all im saying dude. it is a dht deriv, at the same time, very mildly androgenic.

 

[gillaxxl]

wow!!! that was alot to read but it is just hair. i would trade ALL my hair for 20 pounds of lean muscle!!

 

[stevonov]

Anyone who says "who cares about hair" is either already happily married or has the head for looking good with hair shaved. It seems like you have to be a biochemist to figure out how propecia affects different aas! I am not sure how it effects my cycles since I am always on it but it might be responsible for my loss of sex drive. Who knows maybe I'm just not doing enough hcg during cycle and its not the propecia at all? I take 25 units twice per week during cycles which i think is 250IU's. I stopped taking the propecia and my scalp got itchy wich usually means the hairs gonna start falling like crazy! I started cracking the 5mg tabs into three pieces and I'm ok still low sex drive. Heard some take clomid in lower amounts and intervals than pct for sex drive but i dont know. Hey Scarz why does androgel seem to cause more hair loss than injectable test? and your saying my winstrol will not be less effective on propecia?

 

[zc08ty]

I am also thinking of starting a cycle of Anavar. Only anavar at 40mgED and going for 8 weeks. I have done a lot of research and seen a lot of people saying it is a mild steroid and I am only looking to get cut and maybe gain a bit of muscle so I think it will be the right one for the job. The one thing I was worried about is that I have been getting mixed opinions about how it negatively affects your sex drive and ability to get erections? Anyone clearify about the effects of the erection and sex drive, if it does cause it then how long into it will it begin (approximately) and when should I start using Nolvadex as a post cycle therapy (pct)? Thanks guys.