First Cycle Idea

[Phrack]

First Cycle Idea, with a twist....

After mulling over a ton of stickies, I have concluded that the following will be the cycle I choose. Input is greatly appreciated.

1) Age: 37 (Ectomorph with Klinefelter XXY)
2) Height: 5' 10"
3) Weight and Percent Body Fat: 185lbs 25%, but I am skinny as hell, so not sure where the 25% is coming from unless it's all surrounding my organs and in my gut.
4) Years of Consistent Training experience: Off and on for about 6 years, I stop because I never gain anything to show for it...
5) Previous Cycle experience: None
6) Training routine: 4 days a week (1 day for legs, 1 day for chest & back, 1 day for abs and arms) 2 days a week are cardio (usually consist of a 8-12 mile hike in the foothills of my area).
7) Diet: Tuna, Chicken, Whey Protein shake PWO and Casein Before bed.
8) Supplements: glutamine, BCAA, Multi-Vitamin, B-complex, Milk Thistle.
9) Cycle Goals: to look good for once.

#1:
Week 1-10 test enanthate 500mg each week (250mg Mon & Thurs)
Week 1-4 Dbol 40mg (I've read a few posts stating I don't need Dbol on my first cycle so I might take it out although my Test levels are LOW as hell as it is so i'm not sure)
Week 1-15 Nolvadex 20mg each day
Week 12-15 Clomid

Since my doc has me on AndroGel 1.62%, (topical gel 40.5mg per day) how is that going to work with test and other products above?

How do I go about factoring in the Androgel with the cycle, assuming I get legit gear seeing how only 10% is absorbed?

 

[Sick_Beard]

So you already take 50mg of test a day? That's 350mg/ week!? That's a really high dose for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT).

And if you're on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), why would you need nolva/ clomid? post cycle therapy (pct) is not needed when you're already on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), that's the sweet thing about it. Read more on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and how to "blast & cruise"

If I were you I'd talk to my doc about switching over to injectable test. That's the 1st thing I'd do. Then I'd research on the different steroids and if you see something you like, you can experiment with small doses and see how things go. The cycle you mentioned is a good place to start, and if I were you I'd add a small dose of deca as well and extend the cycle to 12 weeks. Deca will help with your joints and that's something you wanna pay attention to at your age if you're looking to seriously grow and get strong.

 

[wclark316]

whats your main goal bro? once you get your BF post it. you can go longer 10 weeks really isent that long. 12 is better but your call just my opinion.

 

[Phrack]

So you already take 50mg of test a day? That's 350mg/ week!? That's a really high dose for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT).

And if you're on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), why would you need nolva/ clomid? PCT is not needed when you're already on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), that's the sweet thing about it. Read more on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and how to "blast & cruise"

If I were you I'd talk to my doc about switching over to injectable test. That's the 1st thing I'd do. Then I'd research on the different steroids and if you see something you like, you can experiment with small doses and see how things go. The cycle you mentioned is a good place to start, and if I were you I'd add a small dose of deca as well and extend the cycle to 12 weeks. Deca will help with your joints and that's something you wanna pay attention to at your age if you're looking to seriously grow and get strong.

i was figuring on the Clomid to stop the estrogen build-up, seeing how i already have Klinefelter i already produce more estrogen than most men, i want that to stop....

I updated my BMI and adjusted the AndroGel (it seems i am only on 40.5mg per day but only 10% is absorbed). I read elsewhere that i should stop the Andogel while i cycle and use it as a way to maintain..

My goal is to get the body back that i had when i went to Basic Training back when i was 18, but better. I want to take off my shirt and be proud of my body for once instead of covering it up with a t-shirt all the time. I want to get back into Trail Running.

Edited sections are in BOLD

 

[Phrack]

ok the doc decided to put me on 100mg once every 2 weeks for 3 doses then bump me up to 200mg every 2 weeks. that doesn't seem very much at all. so what would you recommend me doing to "supplement" what they are giving me? he wouldn't give me a 30 day amount to take home. they want me to go to the VA to get the shots every 2 weeks...

 

[shane77wa]

Guys i need some help 2!! im 18 235pounds about 14%bf been training 4 about 4 years now am currently training 6 days a week but want to go on one cycle of test E to get big quick as im limited for time.i have all the gear just contimplating on if i should do it/ worth it 4 the long term effects.

 

[jagbc]

Guys i need some help 2!! im 18 235pounds about 14%bf been training 4 about 4 years now am currently training 6 days a week but want to go on one cycle of test E to get big quick as im limited for time.i have all the gear just contimplating on if i should do it/ worth it 4 the long term effects.

Start ur own thread!!

 

[R9]

ok the doc decided to put me on 100mg once every 2 weeks for 3 doses then bump me up to 200mg every 2 weeks. that doesn't seem very much at all. so what would you recommend me doing to "supplement" what they are giving me? he wouldn't give me a 30 day amount to take home. they want me to go to the VA to get the shots every 2 weeks...

WTF is wrong with these doctors, man? Since it's VA does that mean you can't just get a better doctor? 100mg/week might be a fine amount but I think if you're just dumping in 200mg every two weeks you're not going to be happy with the overall results. Can you explain that you have researched this and have no problem injecting. Maybe tell him your girlfriend is a nurse.

 

[Nightmare007]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycleing-beginners-guide-your-first-cycle.html
Read it and since you're on try ignore te part about the pct

 

[Phrack]

WTF is wrong with these doctors, man? Since it's VA does that mean you can't just get a better doctor? 100mg/week might be a fine amount but I think if you're just dumping in 200mg every two weeks you're not going to be happy with the overall results. Can you explain that you have researched this and have no problem injecting. Maybe tell him your girlfriend is a nurse.

Actually my GF is a LPN

 

[R9]

That was good. I totally believed you.

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

ok the doc decided to put me on 100mg once every 2 weeks for 3 doses then bump me up to 200mg every 2 weeks. that doesn't seem very much at all. so what would you recommend me doing to "supplement" what they are giving me? he wouldn't give me a 30 day amount to take home. they want me to go to the VA to get the shots every 2 weeks...

Really? That's weird cause my doctor at the VA was going to give me a class and let me take my shit home. He was going to prescribe the same amount too, at 100 per week.

 

[Phrack]

Perhaps my doc is paranoid or some crap.

11B?

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

11c!

 

[Nightmare007]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycleing-beginners-guide-your-first-cycle.html
Read it

 

[Phrack]

OK, just got my Test results back.

TEST TL 155 L ng/dL

so seeing how i am sooooo low on the Test count, is 500MG each week going to be enough to get me into the range i want ( i wouldn't mind being in the 900+ range )

Also @Night, I was told that i wouldn't need to to post cycle therapy (pct), since i will be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the rest of my life because of my Klines.

 

[R9]

TRT doses are normally less than 200mg/week. 500mg is cycle-strength.

 

[Phrack]

200MG a week will only bring me to 350 so does that mean that i will have to take a 500mg dose 2x a week?

 

[3ct]

200MG a week will only bring me to 350 so does that mean that i will have to take a 500mg dose 2x a week?

wtf are you talking about? you can't calculate where your test levels will be based on your dosage. you just have to get blood work done to see where you are and typically 200mg a week will bring you close to a test level of 1000.

 

[Phrack]

Here is a few questions:

1. Can i mix Test E/C and Deca in one Pin and then inject it? or do i have to poke myself 2 times?

2. Also is it alright to Add HGH to a Test cycle?

3. Can i use an insulin syringe to administer the above items, ( i hate needles and would like to find something small in diameter)

I kinda want to see if i can put in 1 pin, my Test, Deca, HGH then do one poke instead of doing 3 different pokes.