First cycle - if gyno were to happen, how soon?

[AverageMan]

Just started pinning 400mg / week of T400 2 weeks ago. Woke up today with an itchy left nipple.

I'm very paranoid about getting gyno. Hell, what guy isn't.

Stats before the blast:
5 9, 160 lbs, 15% BF.
Trt dose of cyp 140 mg / week with .5 Adex per week.

I know that it takes about 5-6 weeks for blood saturturation leaves to build up, so I've been slowly upping my ai right now I'm at .25 eod.

I don't want gyno but also concerned about crashing E2. Plan to get bloods at week 6 and adjusting as necessary.

I've put on a few pounds in the last few days. But I've also increased my calorie intake in order to put on mass while on cycle. I wont lie, I've had a few x-mas cookies too.

I really don't notice much in the mirror - maybe a slightly softer midsection, we are only talking about 3-4 lbs gain vs pre cycle.

What would be the soonest I would see gyno on cycle? Also should I be more aggressive with Adex?

 

[luckypaul]

Thats different for everyone. I can use 500mg test ew and don't need much for an ai. Someone else can get gyno on 125 mg test trt in weeks. It doesn't happen overnight, but if you see signs of gyno, use nolva to block receptors and start an ai if you haven't been using one, which I would assume would be the cause of your problem in the first place.

 

[killchill]

You on week 2 and already putting weight ?(lucky you) Damn man feels bad I'm on week 4 stuffing myself and I lost 2 lbs

 

[tbonexl]

You can run a low dose of ralox for "insurance" during your blast. There's a debate of running nolva with adex causing the effectiveness of adex to lessen to a degree. I wouldn't go jacking up your adex dose dramatically without blood work. Ralox is preferred over nolva to combat gyno. I've personally used both before. I've recently switched to adex and haven't had any issues. I do keep ralox on hand...

 

[Roush]

whatever you do don't get 'gyno paranoia' and start feeling up your nipples all the time wondering if gyno is setting in,, that's just gonna cause soreness and false alarms.. .25 adex eod seems like a pretty good protocol. just wait for bloods I'm sure your fine. Tbones insurance policy idea is always an option as well

the weight you've put on is water weight I'm sure,, have you increased your carb intake (I'm assuming so if your consuming cookies) ?
I'd monitor your blood pressure on a daily basis,, I can up my test dosage, carbohydrates and put on 15 pounds in a week,, but as the weight goes up so does the BP and thats clear its water and glycogen stores causing the weight gain

 

[AverageMan]

You on week 2 and already putting weight ?(lucky you) Damn man feels bad I'm on week 4 stuffing myself and I lost 2 lbs

Trust me, the added weight NEVER goes where I want it (oh hello soft midsection).

Thanks for the confirmation on .25 Adex EOD. I'm going to up this to .25 ED. When getting dialed into TRT I had to go from .25 Adex a week to .5 Adex a week to get my E2 in range. I'm an E2 producing machine.

 

[FL3X MAGNUM]

In my experience with test, the estrogen starts to build up almost immediately. I have since gone and upped my AI dose on day 1.

 

[Mad- scientist]

I started getting gyno in 2 weeks off of 150mgs a week of testosterone with no AI. So it can happen pretty fucking quick. I would keep a serm on hand. Touching your nipples every once in a while isn't a bad idea to check for tenderness just don't check multiple times every day or press to hard. You will notice the onset of gyno pretty easily your nipples will get puffy and if they rub against anything it will hurt.

 

[Megatron28]

You can run a low dose of ralox for "insurance" during your blast. There's a debate of running nolva with adex causing the effectiveness of adex to lessen to a degree. I wouldn't go jacking up your adex dose dramatically without blood work. Ralox is preferred over nolva to combat gyno. I've personally used both before. I've recently switched to adex and haven't had any issues. I do keep ralox on hand...

^^^^^ This is what I always recommend to the gyno-phobic.

 

[Animalistic]

I was a weird case that never got it until I became a heavy ignorant drinker while on cycle with no ai, now it doesn't matter if I drink or not, shows its ugly face within 2 weeks. Keep ai handy at all times.