First cycle of D-Bol and Test E.

[aftermath2001]

I've decided to take a step into the world of AAS.

Ive been training for about 2 years now properely and have now gotten very serious into bodybuilding. I have spent the past few months doing a tremendous amount of research and study into routines, diets, bio science etc and have now reached the point where i think i can facilitate an AAS cycle to its potential.

As of now, im 24 years old, roughly 5'5 145lbs at 13% bf and hoping to finish my cut at around 10-12% before i start cycling. Currently on a keto diet.

My cycle will be something like this:

1-6 30mg D-bol ed
1-10 500mg Test-e
1-10 .25mg arimidex

PCT

14 days after last Test E injection.

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50

Supplements

CL Fish Oil
ON Creatine Mono
ON Whey
CL Orange Triad Multivitamin
Glucosamine
Milk Thistle
Bio Oil (for possible stretch marks)

Diet:

- +500 calories surplus
- 1 - 1.5g protein/lb of bodyweight
- 0.5g fat/lb of bodyweight
- Rest of calories from carbs
- min. galleon of water/day

Will be eating 90% clean, maybe more if i can get calories in easily enough each day.

Does this seem like a good cycle? Any flaws i need to fix before i start?

Is adex usually continued throughout cycle and into PCT?

And, as for macronutrients and calories, do people usually up consumption during cycle, if so ill consume 2g protein/lb instead.

Willing to take as much advice as possible from you guys until i do anything.

 

[Cajun897]

i would go like 12 week with the test

 

[360]

Well you've definitely done your research, but you've only been training 2 years. Take a couple more years to build your foundation. If you don't have a solid natural foundation of muscle you'll probably lose most of whatever you gain on cycle. Natural training sucks I know, but you need a good base to build off of. Think of steroids as the icing on the cake. Build as good of natural physique as you can and use steroids for the finishing touch.

 

[Cajun897]

yes use the a-dex all the way through till pct

 

[gearz10]

No you don't run the adex through the PCT. Arimidex has drug interactions with some PCT drugs such as Nolvadex which can reduce the effectiveness of the two.

 

[aftermath2001]

Hmm, two different answers, maybe a third opinion?

Drop down clomid to 100/50/50/50 instead?
Shorten D-bol cycle to 4 weeks?
2g protein/lb a must?

 

[gearz10]

Also maybe add an Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast to be on the safe side.

 

[Matt0071]

just eat man, no science behind eating lol
dont go to deep into trying to figure out the cals u are taking in or it will def play with your mind, and the mirror will be your best friend as well
goodluck
seems like a good cycle but would def run the test for 12 weeks and drop the dbol down to 4 weeks at 40mg/ed
pct
clomid 100/100/50/50
nolv 40/40/20/20

 

[river]

Let us hear how it goes. I'm waiting on my gear to arrive so I can start my first cycle.
400mg test C wks 1-10
30mg dbol wks 1-4
Arimidex wks 1-10 .25mg eod

 

[aftermath2001]

just eat man, no science behind eating lol
dont go to deep into trying to figure out the cals u are taking in or it will def play with your mind, and the mirror will be your best friend as well
goodluck
seems like a good cycle but would def run the test for 12 weeks and drop the dbol down to 4 weeks at 40mg/ed
pct
clomid 100/100/50/50
nolv 40/40/20/20

I already have my diet in check, once you start counting calories, carbs, fats, proteins etc...it becomes an addiction, id go crazy not knowing how much macros im consuming each day.

So, what is the general consensus on arimidex cycles? Take it from weeks 1-16 or just untill last injection. I'll probably cycle it for teh whoel 16 weeks to stay on the safe side.

 

[Nightmare007]

Increase your protein intake to about 2-2.5gm per lb
No you cannot stack adex with seems for your pct if you want to use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) along with your serms
You can use aromasin
Drop your dbol after week 4
Increase your test to 12 weeks

 

[aftermath2001]

Increase your protein intake to about 2-2.5gm per lb
No you cannot stack adex with seems for your pct if you want to use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) along with your serms
You can use aromasin
Drop your dbol after week 4
Increase your test to 12 weeks

Thanks for the help.

WIll definitley increase intake to atleast 2g/lb and drop D-Bol at week 4 @ 30mg/ed.

As for Adex, ill take it from weeks 1-10, then start Nolva and Clomid 14 days later.

Will have to think about increasing Test to 12 weeks. I know alot of people say that the last two weeks can help Test hit its potential but im concerned about the risks.

Should i change clomid to 100/50/50/50 instead? Not sure if 14 days of 100mg is necessary.

 

[Atomsk]

yeah i would use the test for 12 weeks. also id avoid using milk thistle WHILE ON the dbol. just push through it for the first 6 weeks than start using milk thistle on the seventh week. other than that id say good job for knowing your shit before coming into here and deciding to cycle haha.

 

[Repo]

The good thing is - you are doing your research!

It sounds like you are on the right track - however I would do a lot more
research - before jumping into to you're upcoming cycle...

Here's a starting point - from - THE-DET-OAK - in his link, located in the ... "sticky section."
Hear's the sticking points...

First things first...

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/595482-standard-pcts.html

Happy new Year!

Nick

 

[breakbones]

Go 14-16 weeks!

Your body will Love it and so will you.

 

[Nightmare007]

Thanks for the help.

WIll definitley increase intake to atleast 2g/lb and drop D-Bol at week 4 @ 30mg/ed.

As for Adex, ill take it from weeks 1-10, then start Nolva and Clomid 14 days later.

Will have to think about increasing Test to 12 weeks. I know alot of people say that the last two weeks can help Test hit its potential but im concerned about the risks.

Should i change clomid to 100/50/50/50 instead? Not sure if 14 days of 100mg is necessary.

Dude if u want to run a short cycle switch over prop and pin 150mg eod for 8 weeks