first cycle Sustanon 300.. need help on getting started

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LC1991

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So im getting ready to start my first cycle of sustanon 300. I am very new to this. I was wondering what would I stack with sustanon 300? Like would I still need protein? My buddy also tells me to inject twice a week total of about 1000mg. Is this sound ok?
 
Yup! Read up my friend an educate yourself so you can make an informed decision! This isnt something you want to go into haphazardly. Dont assume just because a person is your friend theyre giving you correct information. Read up, and all the best.
 
If your friend is using 1000mg weekly of the same stuff you have, I would throw it away and get new stuff. Just as a reference, I have a friend who is 5'10" 235, very lean 8% or so, and only uses 600mg.
 
Ok so I just read the thread. I kind of don't understand why I would need all 3 or 4 of those Anti estrogen. I would imagine clomid would suffice.
Anyway im 24 , 5"7, 165 pounds. Been lifting for about 6 yrs. My goal is to gain muscle but not loose my speed. If anything get stronger and faster. 175 to 180 lbs is what I'm aiming
 
LC1991 said:
Ok so I just read the thread. I kind of don't understand why I would need all 3 or 4 of those Anti estrogen. I would imagine clomid would suffice.
Anyway im 24 , 5"7, 165 pounds. Been lifting for about 6 yrs. My goal is to gain muscle but not loose my speed. If anything get stronger and faster. 175 to 180 lbs is what I'm aiming
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Clomid is a SERM. It blocks estrogen from binding to breast tissue (among other things).

Aromatase Inhibitors (AI) reduce the amount of testosterone that converts into estradiol. When you take high doses of exogenous test, it will aromatize into estradiol if your don't use and AI. You want to use an AI while on cycle. You only run one kind -- typically Arimidex or aromasin.
 
Ok so u suggest I use Aromasin during cycle as well as clomid? Does aromasin come in form of a tablet or needs to b injected as well?
I bought 3cc luer lock syringe 22 gauge x 3/4" poly hub needles. Will these b ok?
 
LC1991 said:
Ok so u suggest I use Aromasin during cycle as well as clomid? Does aromasin come in form of a tablet or needs to b injected as well?
I bought 3cc luer lock syringe 22 gauge x 3/4" poly hub needles. Will these b ok?
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I like Arimidex better, but aromasin is a good choice too. Both are taken orally. They are found in tablet or liquid form.

22g is pretty big. I prefer 25g myself. You will also want bigger needles (e.g 20g) for drawing the gear out of the vial into your syringe. Then swap out for the smaller needle to inject.
 
DrHouse said:
If your friend is using 1000mg weekly of the same stuff you have, I would throw it away and get new stuff. Just as a reference, I have a friend who is 5'10" 235, very lean 8% or so, and only uses 600mg.
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Why would you throw it away? This is the second response stating this.. Just because someone is using a gram + a week doesn't mean the gear is underdosed as you so clearly have stated in the other post with this same type of response.
The dosages people take are their choice and are geared towards an outcome. Is a gram too much for a first cycle by all means yes it is and I would never condone that.. But I also do not condone telling people that if they are taking a gram of test their product is garbage. Lets see the same gear I am using everyone around me is growing on 500mgs per week, bloods have shown its legit, so if I take said product at 1.5g a week how does it make it underdosed. Using your friend as a referrence means nothing, at 8% he is pretty much stage ready but his goals are completely different from other people. Do you really think your going to grow the same on 600mgs as you would on lets say 3g.. hell no.. Are there many more risks involved at higher dosages, yes but its all about finding the positive vs negative balance that will yield the best result. Hell I can show you guys that cruise on a gram and blast at 3-4. Some of the strongman competitiors are in the 5-6g range in test. Again its all about what your looking to achieve.

I normally agree with what you post but this is very misleading information to someone that does not know or is just starting out. Nothing wrong with telling someone it is overkill but to say their gear is garbage and to throw it away is another thing.
 
Ok so let me get this straight. Ill b taking sustanon. 250 mg twice a week. Along with my AI (liquid) .
Would I take HCG after my steroid cycle?
 
So if I want to lean out increase my stamina speed and strength u suggest I stack with Dbol first 4 weeks?
Where is the easiest place to inject?
 
LC1991 said:
Ok so let me get this straight. Ill b taking sustanon. 250 mg twice a week. Along with my AI (liquid) .
Would I take HCG after my steroid cycle?
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You should pin sust more frequently than twice a week. One of the esters in it is prop. I would go EOD. Or better yet, just use Test E or C.

The AI dosing frequency depends on which on you use. ED for aromasin. EOD for adex. Those are common starting points until you run your blood work to see where your estradiol is coming in at. Are you squared away on pre, mid and post-cycle blood work?

Take HCG during the cycle. Not during PCT or afterwards.

OK, now that some of this is beginning to click for you go back and read the stickies again. Some of the things you are asking are answered in the stickies and steroid profiles. This will help make sure the info sticks in your head and makes sense. You definitely want to know what you are doing before jumping into a cycle.

Make sure you are fully aware of the possible risks too and can live with the consequences.
 
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LC1991 said:
So if I want to lean out increase my stamina speed and strength u suggest I stack with Dbol first 4 weeks?
Where is the easiest place to inject?
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You have a lot of research to do before you get started. It is all available on this forum for your own reading.
 
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