first cycle test 400 blackwidow

[9lives]

after alot of research im starting a cycle of black widow test 400, 200mg cyp 200mg enan. the pip is horendous, i have pin exp 4m helpin mates though, i was taught by a doc friend of mine. did first pin friday due next one thursday.

im 24, 15stone flat, 6ft5, training on and off for 4 years although this last year been real serious about it .... hit a plateau.

wks 1-9 450 mg test e and test c
wks 12 -15 clomid 20mg ed

 

[smoky370]

you should run for another week at least and you need to get your diet in check 150 is light for a plateau and you could most def. have gotten a couple more lbs. naturally but since you already went ahead with it good luck and you need to go to the diet section and post there to get an idea of how and what you should be eating if your goal is to bulk

 

[9lives]

150? i said 15st thats 209 bs

sure, im trying to nail diet, any good meal suggestions as im nt to imaginative with food thanks

 

[smoky370]

godamn son i read that wrong 6 foot 5 you one tall son of a bitch lol but yeah good luck with it keep the log going ill be watchn

 

[9lives]

2nd pin today . i went for bicep. frickin shat myself as its a new site for me. i feel like i got a dead arm lol! went ok i think. bring on the pumps!

 

[9lives]

PIP is sooo bad! any tips 2 ease it? tried massage and pain killers

 

[rocky85]

Lookin to start my first cycle was going for test, what kind would be best. I no i will need armidex or novadex to combat gyno if it appears. what would i be lookin at takin post cycle to get my body back producin its own test.
I am 6,3 95kg been trainin hard for past year on and off for bout 9 years. I want to start a cycle i no they say to start with just one compound, but i have read that dianabol would kick start the cycle.
I have plenty of protein and am sure i eat enough, just wanted to no what would be a good first cycle? takin 2ml of test mon and thurs 4ml a week for 8 weeks? would i have to be takin armidex .25ml every day?

any help would be greatly appreciated

 

[JOEYTHEJEW]

i do delts and tri's hurt the first few times, now it aint no thang..lil sore the next day...

 

[Die$eL~Man]

what gains are you looking for ?

 

[9lives]

bulk really.

a few people have told me i should pin 500 mg a week so i took the advice of the majority.

2nd pin went into right bicep and its got infected got meds though even though i did everything right. doc said it infection could have got into my body elsewhere and attacked my right arm as it would have been a weak spot.

pissed off havent been able to train for 2 days

 

[9lives]

heres a pic of me week in after eating like a horse, abs gone haha ive put on some weight ill post how much when i weight myself

 

[9lives]

did 3rd pin 2days ago, ass feels like i have been kicked hard lol! the pain doesnt seem to lessen with each pin

 

[Die$eL~Man]

i would run at least 750 mgs per week

 

[blackmetaljon]

bro, the pain WILL go down, but only after you pin a particular site a couple times. yeah, you are right to rotate sites, but i would stick to glutes and quads since they are bigger muscles than bis and such.
i am 5 weeks into my first cycle and i started (and still am) as a skinny guy. 6'1", 153 lbs at beginning of cycle. now up to 174 lbs and i can tell most of it is NOT bloat.
eating is the key. my diet SUCKED bad (not enough kcals) before i got on this forum and got some good diet info. i was only eating like 1500 cals a day. now i eat like 2500-3500 with around 250 grams of protein, which is still on the low end from what i hear.
i use supplements to help get up to those diet #s, and if you are not supplementing, good luck getting enough protein especially. just eat eat eat and eat some more bro. and for skinnier dudes like us, we can get away with a dirtier diet (more fat, fast foods, etc). good luck and i look forward to seeing your updates!

 

[9lives]

i hear u man. i got a good protein shake going to buy a decent carb shake to compliment my 4000 plus cal diet.


ah the pin pain is so bad lol wil stick with glutes tho if stil painful at wk 6 i mite cut it up to 1.2ml with vit B12 or maybe deca

 

[Turtleneck1971]

Unless you have pinned quite a few times bro you need to stick with the Glutes and Thighs for injections in my opinion.... Much less pain involved there to begin with.

 

[9lives]

i have pinned myself a fair few times. im thnking of cutting my test 400 to take the edge off it.

had a good tri work out today. i worked like a dog! was hard to stop lol. i nearly stacked the machine. strength is up, size not so much. wil weigh in asap

 

[9lives]

post inject pain is stil horrific. its lasting like 7 days im considering stopping and trashing it!

weight up to 15st2 from 15st strength increase is steady. i look alot more muscular asif my bf has fallen. wil post pics up soon.

p.s my replies are short as i use ps3 for web and typing is long and slow lol.

 

[rawr007]

only the strong will survive..

if you can't handle the post injection pain of cyp and ent. then never go on tren or prop hahaha

 

[9lives]

its not the compound its the fact its 400 mgs of test in 1ml. i just pinned half to see if thats better. blackwidow test 400 is notorious for post inject pain