first cycle test/deca

[hb1]

hey guys a friend of mine told me this forum would be a good place to get some opinions on my first cycle and whether it would be worth the gains. I'm 22 years old 5'10 and weight 170 pounds. Ive been working out for about 2 years now and i feel like ive just gotten to that point where i need a little bit of a kick to grow some more. heres my plan any feedback would be appreciated.

Im gunna stack in one shot.

250mg testosterone (1xweek)

250mg deca-durabolin (1xweek)

***** 8 week cycle******

im looking to gain mass and weight....is there anything else i should be running with this cycle? should i run it for a longer time period? what should i use for post cycle?

Thanks any help is appreciated

 

[stang50]

In my opinion 8 weeks is too short with deca. First cycle shouldn't even include deca. 250mg a week of both won't do much. You're a little young to start aas. At 5-10 you should be able to put a little more on naturally. I'll let some other people chime in. How much weight did you gain in 2 years?

 

[Teutonic]

In my opinion 8 weeks is too short with deca. First cycle shouldn't even include deca. 250mg a week of both won't do much. You're a little young to start aas. At 5-10 you should be able to put a little more on naturally. I'll let some other people chime in. How much weight did you gain in 2 years?

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Actually your young and it would seem waay to unfamiliar with these compounds potential sides to start running em.

Homework assignment--

Read some of the stickies posted
Cycle check off list..
1 st cycle..

Define Aromatase inhibitor (AI) s , serms, 19 nors, gynocomastia
hpta loop, testicular atrophy..

But if your dead set--

500 a week test e to start only
with an ai
some hcg
proper post cycle therapy (pct) protocol

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[UserAt204]

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[5x10]

i like the conservative dosages, i grew like a weed off 200mgs test/deca

but, if your going to stick with this, u need to run the test until week 12, stop the deca at week 8
read the post cycle therapy (pct) guide(pay attention to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout cycle)

i have a feeling you wont keep much off this cycle, as your weight suggests your diet needs works

 

[DADAWG]

i like the conservative dosages, i grew like a weed off 200mgs test/deca

but, if your going to stick with this, u need to run the test until week 12, stop the deca at week 8
read the post cycle therapy (pct) guide(pay attention to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout cycle)

i have a feeling you wont keep much off this cycle, as your weight suggests your diet needs works

deca is a long ester and needs 10-12 weeks mininum .

 

[5x10]

deca is a long ester and needs 10-12 weeks mininum .

due to it being a long ester, wont it be in your blood for the next month after the last shot?

3 weeks after his last shot, he will still have 133mgs left in him
PCT Calculator | Post Cycle Therapy Calculator

 

[DADAWG]

due to it being a long ester, wont it be in your blood for the next month after the last shot?

3 weeks after his last shot, he will still have 133mgs left in him
post cycle therapy (pct) Calculator | Post Cycle Therapy Calculator

thats true , you run test eth or cyp 1 week longer than deca and start post cycle therapy (pct) 3 weeks after deca / 2 weeks after cyp or eth.

 

[rocko3927]

first off you should only run test on your first cycle. as it is the base for any cycle. this will enable you to understand and know exactly how your body reacts to this compound. adding deca would only complicate things. not saying deca isn't good with test, thats what i am running, but first cycle= one compound...second cycle is cool to intro one more and so fourth....also make sure your diet and training are on point. i am not gonna judge but make sure you have reached your natty potential before using gear...good luck and be careful....whats your post cycle therapy (pct) and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on stand by.....hcg???? do you know what this is...have u read the sticky on "am i ready for gear"

 

[Yes]

thats true , you run test eth or cyp 1 week longer than deca and start post cycle therapy (pct) 3 weeks after deca / 2 weeks after cyp or eth.

What if you're running sus-250 for your first cycle. How can you run the test longer than the deca ?

 

[DADAWG]

What if you're running sus-250 for your first cycle. How can you run the test longer than the deca ?

sus and deca both have a 3 week wait from last injection to starting pctso you could stop them at the same time.


sustanon / omnas / eq / deca = 3 week wait to start pct.

 

[Cobra Strike]

What if you're running sus-250 for your first cycle. How can you run the test longer than the deca ?

switch to test e for the last two weeks...just an idea

I dont really like waiting 3 weeks to post cycle therapy (pct) so I would run my test 2 weeks longer than the deca so you can post cycle therapy (pct) in 2 weeks

 

[Yes]

switch to test e for the last two weeks...just an idea

I dont really like waiting 3 weeks to pct so I would run my test 2 weeks longer than the deca so you can pct in 2 weeks

I think you should stretch that cycle out longer than 8 weeks. It's kind of a waste of gear. You're just getting in motion.

I was just doing some personal research on Arimidex. Would that work well with a cycle like this ?

 

[Cobra Strike]

What if you're running sus-250 for your first cycle. How can you run the test longer than the deca ?

I think you should stretch that cycle out longer than 8 weeks. It's kind of a waste of gear. You're just getting in motion.

I was just doinng some personal research on Arimidex. Would that work well with a cycle like this ?

yes...arimidex will work in any cycle with test...which should be every one lol

he would need a dopamine agonist for the deca gyno

op...if you are running a test p cycle only then 8 weeks is fine but if your doing test e or c or sus than 12 weeks is better....and deca is a 12 week minimum cycle

 

[Yes]

yes...arimidex will work in any cycle with test...which should be every one lol

he would need a dopamine agonist for the deca gyno

op...if you are running a test p cycle only then 8 weeks is fine but if your doing test e or c or sus than 12 weeks is better....and deca is a 12 week minimum cycle

Ok, let's say this:

12 weeks deca x 250mg/week
14 weeks sus-250 x 500mg/week
Arimidex ED .5mg to 1mg

What would the pct look like ?

 

[Cobra Strike]

Ok, let's say this:

12 weeks deca x 250mg/week
14 weeks sus-250 x 500mg/week
Arimidex ED .5mg to 1mg

What would the pct look like ?

just my opinion here....I dont like the sus to go longer because then your still waiting 3 weeks to pct...could you do this?

12 weeks deca 500/week
12 weeks sus 700/week (the only reason I bumped that up is because i feel that test should be ran 200mg higher than a 19nor to help combat libido issues)
weeks 12-14 test e 700/wee
arimidex is a lil more complicating then aromasin...if you google it its easy to find but they say that .5mg of arimidex doesnt do anymore for estrogen blocking than 1mg so I run mine at .5/ed. The thing about arimidex is that you should taper it to .25mg/ed when you get 2 weeks into your pct to avoid estro rebound at the end of pct.

then your pct would be from weeks 16 to 19

you could go with clomid and nolva...just clomid...or just toremifene

Im sure you already know the amounts but for the hell of it

clomid 50/50/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20
toremifene 60/60/60/60

 

[Yes]

just my opinion here....I dont like the sus to go longer because then your still waiting 3 weeks to pct...could you do this?

12 weeks deca 500/week
12 weeks sus 700/week (the only reason I bumped that up is because i feel that test should be ran 200mg higher than a 19nor to help combat libido issues)
weeks 12-14 test e 700/wee
arimidex is a lil more complicating then aromasin...if you google it its easy to find but they say that .5mg of arimidex doesnt do anymore for estrogen blocking than 1mg so I run mine at .5/ed. The thing about arimidex is that you should taper it to .25mg/ed when you get 2 weeks into your pct to avoid estro rebound at the end of pct.

then your pct would be from weeks 16 to 19

you could go with clomid and nolva...just clomid...or just toremifene

Im sure you already know the amounts but for the hell of it

clomid 50/50/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20
toremifene 60/60/60/60

Looks good, I like it... thx !

Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack this thread but it was on the same topic and I didn't want to start a new thread just for a Arimidex question