First cycle - Test P only

[viezejunk]

Hey, thanks for reading. I'm planning to start my first cycle in a few weeks, still trying to learn as much as I can.

Age: 23
Length: 190cm
Weigth: 91kg
BF: ~10-11%
Training: 2,5 years. Went from 100 back to 80 when I started, then bulked up to 105. Now I'm back to 91 for the summer.

Goal: lean mass. I'm not looking to bloat up a ton, just looking to keep my BF in control and add some pounds. Hence the prop. I was considering adding in Masteron prop but I heard the test alone would give me the same results. What do you guys think?

Diet: I know diet plays a key role in this and I am very strict with this. What seems to work best for me is to shoot for around 45% protein, 40% carb, 15% fat. Slow carbs, no alcohol, no junk and good fats. Trying to get in around 3500-4000 calories the least, perhaps even more. I will be doing cardio atleast once a week for about an hour, if I gain fat too quickly I might do it twice. Don't get me wrong, I know I will get some bloat and fat. I just like to keep it in control.

Training: 5 day split, I've started with a 3 day full body routine (reg park) but I feel a split works better for me and my goals (esthetics, not strength)

Cycle:
Weeks 1-10 Test Prop - 150mg EOD
Weeks 1-10 Arimidex - .5mg EOD
Weeks 1-10 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) - 250ius twice a week
Weeks 10-13 Nolvadex - 40/40/20/20
Weeks 10-13 Liquid Clomi - 100/50/50

Any suggestions or critiques? I am not sure wether I should drop Arimidex and just go for Nolva during cycle. I'm also paranoid about my hairline, so I might use finasteride 1mg ED, would this be enough?
Also for the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) - should I go for week 1-10? Or use it for post cycle therapy (pct) too?
Final question, would 10 weeks of test prop be plenty? Or should I add in another week or 2? And if I'd run a 2 week clen cycle for cutting, would it be better to do it during cycle or post cycle?

Sorry if these are all newbie questions, I just like to know if I am on the right track. Thanks for your time.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Looks like well researched cycle, don't see that very often, good job for not being lazy. Don't drop adex to replace it with nolva. The only thing I would do is i would drop test prop adex and hgc to week 1-8 instead of 10 weeks.

Donate blood 2 weeks pre cycle, mid cycle and after post cycle therapy (pct) if needed. And use 5mg daily of cialis for prostate health and many other benefits if you want.

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[viezejunk]

Thanks for your reply. Is this stack recommended during cycle, as in my case week 1-10, or during post cycle therapy (pct) too? Or is it an all year round thing? I assume the first.

Also, how much difference would it make to use masteron prop, after say 3-4 weeks. The test prop should be kicked in by then and I know how my body reacts to test , isn't it okay to add in another compound at that point?

 

[DexterMorgan]

Thanks for your reply. Is this stack recommended during cycle, as in my case week 1-10, or during post cycle therapy (pct) too? Or is it an all year round thing? I assume the first.

Also, how much difference would it make to use masteron prop, after say 3-4 weeks. The test prop should be kicked in by then and I know how my body reacts to test , isn't it okay to add in another compound at that point?

During cycle and post cycle therapy (pct) if want, wont hurt. Go with test only for you 1st cycle. With a good diet you will achieve great results.

 

[Gearedup26]

Just a thought i see your running test p for a first cycle you understand that's going to require everyday or every other day injections. The reason I say this is bottom line your going to be in pain that virgin muscle is going to be all sore and swollen and your going to be jabbing it like that, just consider ruining a longer Ester test may help you for your first go around!!

 

[viezejunk]

During cycle and post cycle therapy (pct) if want, wont hurt. Go with test only for you 1st cycle. With a good diet you will achieve great results.

Yeah fair enough, that's the kind of advice I'm getting everywhere so I'll stick with test only.

Any reason to go for 8 weeks and not 10, like you said in your previous post?

 

[viezejunk]

Just a thought i see your running test p for a first cycle you understand that's going to require everyday or every other day injections. The reason I say this is bottom line your going to be in pain that virgin muscle is going to be all sore and swollen and your going to be jabbing it like that, just consider ruining a longer Ester test may help you for your first go around!!

Thanks, I know about the pinning, I've taken it in consideration but I'm still sticking with prop over a longer ester.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Yeah fair enough, that's the kind of advice I'm getting everywhere so I'll stick with test only.

Any reason to go for 8 weeks and not 10, like you said in your previous post?

Because it's a short ester, 8 weeks is good enough, but you can go with 10 if want. When you're running long esters like test-e, then you would need to run it for at least 12 weeks. But with prop I would stick to 8.

As mentioned above, long ester is better for 1st cycle, fewer injections to deal with, but test is test.