First cyp cycle and want to do it right!

[Fist]

Age 34
Ht. 5'10"
Wt. 185
Been dieting and working hard for over a year to establish a good platform to build off of. Run a lot an have a vey active lifestyle. Diet usually consist of oats with egg whites in morning/ fruit mid morning shake, wheat bread and tuna or a pre made lunch with brown rice and lean meat or chicken evening shake. Late evening workout and high protein dinner with tons of grilled veggies. Have a long athletic history and have always trained and been healthy. Been reading these forums for a long time and finally got the nads to join and ask for some help. Have test cyp. 250mg/ml. 30ml. total and want to lock down oct and pct. have seen many different opinions and it can be hard to take in sometimes. Been leaning up for a while and ready to bulk a little. Open for good suggestions.

 

[oldmusclemike]

OK we would like to know your BF%.

But have you read the sticky as you came in about first cycle? of not do some more reading.
You have enough test but you will need more and get the knowledge of what and when to plug these things in and a good understanding of why. Others will chime in here.

Test
AI, like Arimidex from day one until pct
Nolva
Clomid etc...

I must run right now stay tuned and they will come, help and explain more. But you need to read up. Good luck

 

[Fist]

Sorry, figured I left something out.
Bf. 18%
Been reading for quite some time now. Just want to gather my tools and go to work but in the healthiest manner. Many options on oct and pct, are AI, peptides just as good or should I stick to the real deal? See lots of people raving over peps and I'm not sure. Thanks for the reply, will read more on the sticky.

 

[YODATRON]

OK we would like to know your BF%.

But have you read the sticky as you came in about first cycle? of not do some more reading.
You have enough test but you will need more and get the knowledge of what and when to plug these things in and a good understanding of why. Others will chime in here.

Test
AI, like Arimidex from day one until pct
Nolva
Clomid etc...

I must run right now stay tuned and they will come, help and explain more. But you need to read up. Good luck

What Mike said is right on the spot he is very very well informed chap cheers lockdown some more reading and you should have it. What are your goals for your cycle?

 

[Fist]

I would like to bulk up a bit. I've had a few hand and leg injuries and want to regain that strength I used to have. Still want to cut and have muscle tone but I know cyp can make me carry some water retention. I would like to get my weight up to 200- 210# since I've dropped about 15 pounds of useless fat this year! To sum it all up, I want to show my bodies true potential. Thanks for the reply

 

[YODATRON]

Yeah I would try arimidex or aromasin for ai and nolvadex and clomid for pct some hcg wouldn't hurt either you seem fairly new here so welcome to Ology bro hope we can help you reach your potential cheers

 

[Fist]

Yes new but been lurking for a few months. Jus t scared to join. Thanks for the information. Almost got all the tools i need. Will reply back once I do to put them all together thanks'!

 

[oldmusclemike]

Fist, listen Test Cyp will not make you gain water unless you let it. Remember diet is what CONTROLS it. I have done a lot of Cyp some years back that was very prominent. I never had a problem and the guys I knew who were serious about gaining LMM didn't allow themselves to get heavy with anything but lean muscle mass...Diet man. It is a slower weight gain but more impressive.

Now please if you haven't read up on Estrogen and Prolactin do it. Use your AI from start to PCT day one. I recommend .25 EOD instead od .125 ED. It is an easier measurement for accuracy. Don't go to .25 ED or .5 EOD unless you aren't feeling good AND you have labs to verify High Estrogen levels and even then watch an be careful. I don't care what anyone says, you DO NOT want to crash your E2. I've been there and wanted to die and it just about ruined my cycle.
Just a word to the wiser.

 

[Fist]

Thanks once again for the input. I do however have a question you may can answer, an AI like Letrozole and anti estrogen like tamofixen / clomiphhene made by the pep companies. Do they do their job? Heard it both ways and know someone personally but would like to know from seasoned vet. And yes diet is big my wife and I have changed the out look of our pantry and fridge we'll over a year ago and both run a lot and attend at least 1 5-k a month. Thanks in advance!

 

[JB1016]

There are many vets on this board who state they have used these liquid products from RUI with success. I have no experience but have spent my time reading.

 

[Hypnotix]

I don't have bloods to prove it, but I've used RUI's Clomid, Ralox, and Cialis. Note : I used Ralox and Clomid after an irresponsible run of Prohormones, oral only.. I had no bloods taken and have learned quite a bit since on the importance of bloodwork.

During PCT the Clomid seemed to be real, I was rather moody and developed acne on the back and a few pimples here and there.

The Ralox I used to diminish puberty gyno. It's honestly hard to tell whether it worked because I had just signed up with 3J and was leaning out.. So take that how you will.

The Cialis, I just wanted to try out because of all the hype about it. The first time trying it, I took 5mg. I felt like I had better bloodflow, and my erections were literally rock solid. I took 5mg for two more days in a row, just to test it out. Erections seemed to come randomly, or out of just a slight arousal. That was interesting lol

All my experience though, hope this helps!