randy841
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Fresh receptors get hit the hardest. My first week I put on 10lb on T/E. I was getting less than 500mg wkly - more like 433mg - 2 shots every 8 days. Strength comes later though wk 3-5.
First ever cycle!! I have crossed over to the dark side!!!
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Fresh receptors get hit the hardest. My first week I put on 10lb on T/E. I was getting less than 500mg wkly - more like 433mg - 2 shots every 8 days. Strength comes later though wk 3-5.
StumpMT
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Well....here we go!! Got to the gym and weighed myself....208lbs (I've attached a pic). The handheld bf% measuring device put me at 17% which think is definitely wrong (based on my picture). I've heard those things vary greatly (5-7%) based on hydration levels. Anyways, it was shoulder/tricep day. The weights listed below are only working sets...
Warm-up'd with some light military presses
Barbell Seated Militrary: 165x10r, 185x6r, 185x7r (tough)
Upright Rows: 135x10r, 135x9r, 135x8r
One Arm Dumbbell Laterals: 35x10r, 35x10r, 35x12r (need to up the weight)
Extreme shoulder stretching
Close-grip Bench: 225x10r, 225x10r, 225x8r (on smith machine)
Skull Crushers: 95x10r, 115x6r, 115x6r (very tough and my triceps need some work)
Overhead Dumbbell: 80x10r, 90x8r, 90x8r
Extreme tricep stretching
After all that I did 3 sets of extreme incline sit-ups. I felt great at the gym today!! I came in ready to beat the hell out of my shoulders and triceps. I feel I did the job nicely. I'm still sticking to my diet nicely with no problems and no temptations to cheat (although I have one or two cheat meals a week but I never splurge and I keep it within reason). Let me know what you guys think of my progress photo (208lbs). I think it's worth mentioning that this photo was taken about 20min ago right after I got home from the gym.
Warm-up'd with some light military presses
Barbell Seated Militrary: 165x10r, 185x6r, 185x7r (tough)
Upright Rows: 135x10r, 135x9r, 135x8r
One Arm Dumbbell Laterals: 35x10r, 35x10r, 35x12r (need to up the weight)
Extreme shoulder stretching
Close-grip Bench: 225x10r, 225x10r, 225x8r (on smith machine)
Skull Crushers: 95x10r, 115x6r, 115x6r (very tough and my triceps need some work)
Overhead Dumbbell: 80x10r, 90x8r, 90x8r
Extreme tricep stretching
After all that I did 3 sets of extreme incline sit-ups. I felt great at the gym today!! I came in ready to beat the hell out of my shoulders and triceps. I feel I did the job nicely. I'm still sticking to my diet nicely with no problems and no temptations to cheat (although I have one or two cheat meals a week but I never splurge and I keep it within reason). Let me know what you guys think of my progress photo (208lbs). I think it's worth mentioning that this photo was taken about 20min ago right after I got home from the gym.
ronnie2010
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Looking decent so far Stump, but you are very early into it so I wouldn't say any HUGE changes since your first pic. Either way your gains so far are impressive.
On another note: Randy841 I was thinking of running my cycle very much like yours, with pins every 4th day, so 2 every 8 days instead of the 2/7 model everyone uses.
Just seems like you can keep your body slightly more stable this way. I am pretty sure Test-e has a half life of 4-5 days so it just makes sense to do it this way. This gives me about an 11 week cycle on 2 vials.
Ok not trying to steal this thread or anything. GREAT WORK STUMPMT KEEP US POSTED!!!
On another note: Randy841 I was thinking of running my cycle very much like yours, with pins every 4th day, so 2 every 8 days instead of the 2/7 model everyone uses.
Just seems like you can keep your body slightly more stable this way. I am pretty sure Test-e has a half life of 4-5 days so it just makes sense to do it this way. This gives me about an 11 week cycle on 2 vials.
Ok not trying to steal this thread or anything. GREAT WORK STUMPMT KEEP US POSTED!!!
StumpMT
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Thanks Ronnie!! Yeah, I really just posted the pic to show that I really didn't gain much fat at all, if any, since the start and I'm up 8lbs. Also want to jump in and say that I think that's a really good idea to pin E4Ds. I pin Sunday AM and Wednesday PM to give me 3.5 days in between each injection. Maybe I'll go to E4D. It would definitely make my cycle last longer (not that 15 weeks isn't long enough lol). That's definitely something to think about though. I was kind of wondering why most shoot M, TH giving 3 days between one and 4 days between the other. Maybe it's easier to remember but I look forward to injection days now so I would never forget that!
ronnie2010
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Yea thats the only reason I can think of for the 3 days then 4 days....easier to remember. I think every 4 would be better and makes more sense to keep it stable in your body. Flucuating hormones can/will add to sides, that is not based on my experience since I have none yet lol....just common sense and research. Ok well I am off to the gym! Keep up the good work, I will be sure to post my cycle as well when it comes time.
StumpMT
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It was leg day again today...good ol' leg day. There was no one to spot me on squats so I didn't go to parallel for fear of not getting back up but I got close lol. As before all sets listed are working sets.
Warm-up: Bike for 5min
Squats: 375x6r, 375x6r, 375x6r
Leg Press: ~700x10r, ~745x8r, ~745x8r (This is assuming the sled weighs 100lbs)
Leg Extension: 205x15r, 205x15r, 205x12r (this is max weight on the machine)
Stiff-legged Deads: 225x10r, 225x10r, 225x10r
Seated One-legged Curls: 75x8r, 75x8r, 75x8r
Lying Leg Curls: 105x8r, 105x8r, 105x8r
Work out took a lil longer than usual cause I was resting a lil longer in between squat sets. It was a great workout though. I'm feeling stronger each work out and I still have at least 10 more weeks!!
I won't have a chance to train Friday, Saturday, or Sunday because I'll be in Columbus for the Arnold Sports Festival. This will be my first time going to a bodybuilding contest let alone the Arnold Classic!! I'm so PUMPED!!!!
Warm-up: Bike for 5min
Squats: 375x6r, 375x6r, 375x6r
Leg Press: ~700x10r, ~745x8r, ~745x8r (This is assuming the sled weighs 100lbs)
Leg Extension: 205x15r, 205x15r, 205x12r (this is max weight on the machine)
Stiff-legged Deads: 225x10r, 225x10r, 225x10r
Seated One-legged Curls: 75x8r, 75x8r, 75x8r
Lying Leg Curls: 105x8r, 105x8r, 105x8r
Work out took a lil longer than usual cause I was resting a lil longer in between squat sets. It was a great workout though. I'm feeling stronger each work out and I still have at least 10 more weeks!!
I won't have a chance to train Friday, Saturday, or Sunday because I'll be in Columbus for the Arnold Sports Festival. This will be my first time going to a bodybuilding contest let alone the Arnold Classic!! I'm so PUMPED!!!!
randy841
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Makes more sense ronnie. I never understood why pin M/T or T/F or what ever split, as you leave out 2 and 3 days in between. Its best to be consistent on time and day. I'm in my 14th week, no problems - levels are perfectly stable. Only side effect is very very minor acne that came 2 weeks out 14 wks, and 28lb gained, if you would call that a side effect.
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StumpMT
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Holy shit!! Chest/Bicep day was fucking amazing!
Flat barbell bench: 315x6r, 315x6r, 315x5r
Incline plate-loaded machine: 135(each side)x10r, 145x10r, 145x8r then dropped down to 90x6r
Flat dumbbell flyes: 50x10r, 55x10r, 55x10r
Cable flyes: 70x10r, 70x10r, 70x10r
Barbell curls: 135x8r, 135x8r, 135x6r
Dumbbell preacher: 45x8r, 45x8r, 45x8r
Pinwheel curls: 50x6r, 50x6r, 50x6r
After that my arms were so fucking pumped!! They still are and it's hard to type lol. I definitely feel stronger in my lifts. I think next chest day I'll do some dumbbell incline and decline presses. I'm really looking forward to being another month into my cycle to really see some gains. My diet is still going good and I'm still eating like crazy! Tomorrow is going to be an early gym day for me....earlier than usual. I'll train my back then head to the Arnold Sports Festival. I can't wait!!!!!
Flat barbell bench: 315x6r, 315x6r, 315x5r
Incline plate-loaded machine: 135(each side)x10r, 145x10r, 145x8r then dropped down to 90x6r
Flat dumbbell flyes: 50x10r, 55x10r, 55x10r
Cable flyes: 70x10r, 70x10r, 70x10r
Barbell curls: 135x8r, 135x8r, 135x6r
Dumbbell preacher: 45x8r, 45x8r, 45x8r
Pinwheel curls: 50x6r, 50x6r, 50x6r
After that my arms were so fucking pumped!! They still are and it's hard to type lol. I definitely feel stronger in my lifts. I think next chest day I'll do some dumbbell incline and decline presses. I'm really looking forward to being another month into my cycle to really see some gains. My diet is still going good and I'm still eating like crazy! Tomorrow is going to be an early gym day for me....earlier than usual. I'll train my back then head to the Arnold Sports Festival. I can't wait!!!!!
randy841
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Your pushing some serious weight on flat bench to start off bro. Should easily push 4 plates (405lb+) by the end it.
Solid routine.
StumpMT
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Oh man did I have a good back workout!!!! I'm in Columbus for the Arnold Classic but there's an Anytime Fitness so I was able to get my back workout in. Here we go. I'm going to start posting my previous lifts along with my current to show you guys my progress. My current lifts will be in bold.
Pull-ups (warm up): BWx8r, BWx8r, BWx8r
Pull-ups (warm up): BWx8r, BWx8r, BWx8r
Rack Deads (knee level, no straps, chalk only): 405x6r, 415x6r, 425x6r
Rack Deads (knee level, no straps, chalk only): 425x8r, 425x8r, 455x6r (tough!)
Barbell rows: 225x8r, 225x8r, 225x8r
Barbell rows: 225x10r, 225x10r, 225x10r
Dumbbell rows: 130x8r, 130x8r, 130x8r
Dumbbell rows (this gym didn't have dumbbells >100lb :/): 100x15r, 100x15r, 100x15r
Cable rows: 180x10r, 210x10r, 215x10r
Cable rows: 200x10r, 200x10r, 200x10r (time to increase the weight)
Shrugs: 225x10r, 225x10r, 225x10r
Shrugs (behind the back): 315x10r, 315x10r, 315x10r (obviously i could've done more last workout....oh well)
Then I did some lat stretching. I did 3 sets of abs on the machine where you lift your legs while you're crunching. I've never done it before because my gym doesn't have it but this one did. It was nice. got a great burn!!
Well, that's it. I definitely feel stronger each week!! I have my 6th injection on Sunday morning...it's kind of going by fast. Anyways, let me know what you guys think. From now on I'll post my lifts in this manner.
Pull-ups (warm up): BWx8r, BWx8r, BWx8r
Pull-ups (warm up): BWx8r, BWx8r, BWx8r
Rack Deads (knee level, no straps, chalk only): 405x6r, 415x6r, 425x6r
Rack Deads (knee level, no straps, chalk only): 425x8r, 425x8r, 455x6r (tough!)
Barbell rows: 225x8r, 225x8r, 225x8r
Barbell rows: 225x10r, 225x10r, 225x10r
Dumbbell rows: 130x8r, 130x8r, 130x8r
Dumbbell rows (this gym didn't have dumbbells >100lb :/): 100x15r, 100x15r, 100x15r
Cable rows: 180x10r, 210x10r, 215x10r
Cable rows: 200x10r, 200x10r, 200x10r (time to increase the weight)
Shrugs: 225x10r, 225x10r, 225x10r
Shrugs (behind the back): 315x10r, 315x10r, 315x10r (obviously i could've done more last workout....oh well)
Then I did some lat stretching. I did 3 sets of abs on the machine where you lift your legs while you're crunching. I've never done it before because my gym doesn't have it but this one did. It was nice. got a great burn!!
Well, that's it. I definitely feel stronger each week!! I have my 6th injection on Sunday morning...it's kind of going by fast. Anyways, let me know what you guys think. From now on I'll post my lifts in this manner.
StumpMT
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Ok, so just got done with my shoulder/tricep workout. Despite being in unknown territory (different gym) I was still able to get a really intense workout in...
Barbell Military: 165x10r, 185x6r, 185x7r
Dumbbell Presses: 85x7r, 85x7r, 85x6r then immediately dropped down to 60x4r (This Anytime didn't have a good barbell setup so I chose dumbbell
Upright Rows: 135x10r, 135x9r, 135x8r
Upright Rows: 135x10r, 135x10r, 135x10r (time to increase the weight)
One-arm Laterals: 35x10r, 35x10r, 35x12r
One-arm Laterals: 40x10r, 40x8r, 40x8r then immediately dropped to 25x6r
No rear delt work
Seated Rear Delt Laterals: 30x12r, 30x12r, 30x12r
Close-grip Bench: 225x10r, 225x10r, 225x8r on smith machine
Close-grip Bench: 225x10r, 225x10r, 225x10r on smith machine
Skulls: 95x10r, 115x6r, 115x6r
Skulls: 100x10r, 100x10r, 100x10r (They didn't have a curl bar so I used an olympic barbell)
Overhead Dumbbell: 80x10r, 90x8r, 90x8r
Overhead Dumbbell: 90x10r, 90x9r, 90x8r
Overall I feel really good about this workout. I feel I've moved up a little in my lifts. I'm counting 2 plates per side as 225 on the smith machine....although it might actually be closer to 205 or something depending on how much the smith bar weighs. Either way I moved up in weight which is all that matters.
I liked doing skull crushers with an olympic barbell. I think I'll do them like that from now on.
I feel my shoulders (side delts especially) and triceps lag a little bit compared to the rest of my upper body. Do you think I should keep on doing this shoulder/triceps routine or should I try something else? This routine has a lot of 'mass building' moves I think. Anyways, let me know what you think. Pin #6 is tomorrow morning
Barbell Military: 165x10r, 185x6r, 185x7r
Dumbbell Presses: 85x7r, 85x7r, 85x6r then immediately dropped down to 60x4r (This Anytime didn't have a good barbell setup so I chose dumbbell
Upright Rows: 135x10r, 135x9r, 135x8r
Upright Rows: 135x10r, 135x10r, 135x10r (time to increase the weight)
One-arm Laterals: 35x10r, 35x10r, 35x12r
One-arm Laterals: 40x10r, 40x8r, 40x8r then immediately dropped to 25x6r
No rear delt work
Seated Rear Delt Laterals: 30x12r, 30x12r, 30x12r
Close-grip Bench: 225x10r, 225x10r, 225x8r on smith machine
Close-grip Bench: 225x10r, 225x10r, 225x10r on smith machine
Skulls: 95x10r, 115x6r, 115x6r
Skulls: 100x10r, 100x10r, 100x10r (They didn't have a curl bar so I used an olympic barbell)
Overhead Dumbbell: 80x10r, 90x8r, 90x8r
Overhead Dumbbell: 90x10r, 90x9r, 90x8r
Overall I feel really good about this workout. I feel I've moved up a little in my lifts. I'm counting 2 plates per side as 225 on the smith machine....although it might actually be closer to 205 or something depending on how much the smith bar weighs. Either way I moved up in weight which is all that matters.
I liked doing skull crushers with an olympic barbell. I think I'll do them like that from now on.
I feel my shoulders (side delts especially) and triceps lag a little bit compared to the rest of my upper body. Do you think I should keep on doing this shoulder/triceps routine or should I try something else? This routine has a lot of 'mass building' moves I think. Anyways, let me know what you think. Pin #6 is tomorrow morning
Juicer2222
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Nice progress! Just make sure u r keeping ur form solid, especially side laterals.
StumpMT
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Leg day baby!!! Man did I feel great today! Injected for the 6th time this morning then drove back from Columbus. I felt on fire in the gym today!!
Warm-up: Bike for 5min
Warmed up with light leg extensions
Squats: 375x6r, 375x6r, 375x6r
Squats: 375x8r, 385x8r, 385x6r (tough!!)
Leg Press: ~700x10r, ~745x8r, ~745x8r (This is assuming the sled weighs 100lbs)
Leg Press: 700x10r, 700x10r, 700x10r (I forgot what I did last week :/ Never again!)
Leg Extension: 205x15r, 205x15r, 205x12r (this is max weight on the machine)
Leg Extension: 205x15r, 205x15r, 205x15r (These were super setted w/ Lying Leg Curls)
Stiff-legged Deads: 225x10r, 225x10r, 225x10r
Stiff-legged Deads w/ dumbbells: 100x10r, 100x10r, 105x10r (the dumbbells had a different feel to them. I felt like I could feel it more in my hams.
Seated One-legged Curls: 75x8r, 75x8r, 75x8r
Standing Leg Curls: 75x10r, 80x8r, 80x8r
Lying Leg Curls: 105x8r, 105x8r, 105x8r
Lying Leg Curls: 105x10r, 105x10r, 105x10r (These were super setted with Leg Extensions)
No lunges last week.
Walking Lunges w/ 100lb on back: 4 sets of 10 steps each (5 steps each leg per set) I think I should do more steps lol.
Well, that's it. Looks like I moved up in weight in all exercises except leg press just because I forgot what I did last week. I won't make that mistake again!! Also didn't move up with leg extensions for obvious reasons. I could've done more reps though or maybe move onto a different exercise like hack squats or front squats. What do you think?
Warm-up: Bike for 5min
Warmed up with light leg extensions
Squats: 375x6r, 375x6r, 375x6r
Squats: 375x8r, 385x8r, 385x6r (tough!!)
Leg Press: ~700x10r, ~745x8r, ~745x8r (This is assuming the sled weighs 100lbs)
Leg Press: 700x10r, 700x10r, 700x10r (I forgot what I did last week :/ Never again!)
Leg Extension: 205x15r, 205x15r, 205x12r (this is max weight on the machine)
Leg Extension: 205x15r, 205x15r, 205x15r (These were super setted w/ Lying Leg Curls)
Stiff-legged Deads: 225x10r, 225x10r, 225x10r
Stiff-legged Deads w/ dumbbells: 100x10r, 100x10r, 105x10r (the dumbbells had a different feel to them. I felt like I could feel it more in my hams.
Seated One-legged Curls: 75x8r, 75x8r, 75x8r
Standing Leg Curls: 75x10r, 80x8r, 80x8r
Lying Leg Curls: 105x8r, 105x8r, 105x8r
Lying Leg Curls: 105x10r, 105x10r, 105x10r (These were super setted with Leg Extensions)
No lunges last week.
Walking Lunges w/ 100lb on back: 4 sets of 10 steps each (5 steps each leg per set) I think I should do more steps lol.
Well, that's it. Looks like I moved up in weight in all exercises except leg press just because I forgot what I did last week. I won't make that mistake again!! Also didn't move up with leg extensions for obvious reasons. I could've done more reps though or maybe move onto a different exercise like hack squats or front squats. What do you think?
ronnie2010
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Hmmm that immediate jump in weight must of been from possible water retention? Or maybe the increase in food? Keep up the good work.
DoomHammer
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Awesome log man, have been following it for a week. I am very interested to see your results, Im about the same size you are, slightly taller. I will be starting my first cycle soon, most likely test e with an oral kick-start. Keep this one going dude!
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