CarelessPassion
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First Inject Pain? Normal, or the wraith of Jesus Christ?
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halfwit
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1. It's hard to say, but virgin muscle is ALWAYS going to hurt a bit. How long was the needle? If it's a 1", you want to bury that all the way in, assuring you reach the muscle belly. Injecting too shallow could cause a little extra PIP (post-injection pain), which is likely the case as well as it being virgin muscles. It will get better over time. 
2. You can warm the oil by placing the vial into a small bowl of heated water or even running a hair dryer over the syringe pre-injection. I don't personally do this, but I do know that taking a nice hot shower before you pin can help as it relaxes the muscles as well as your mind. Having shaky hands (common) with a razor (needle has a blade on it) is a sure-fire way to do some trauma on that body of yours. Relaxing will help enormously, as well as getting in more experience. You can also take an ibuprofen to ease the PIP if you find it necessary.
3. No. All virgin muscle will be nearly the same. The only location I had relatively little issues with were my delts.
4. In the same vicinity, yes. Be sure to rotate between sites though, you don't want to build up scar tissue by causing trauma to the same site over and over. For a rookie, I'd go R-Quad, L-Quad, R-Delt, L-Delt and repeat. If you're comfortable, you can even bring in glutes or ventrogluteals as the more sites you're comfortable with, the better.
Just stick with it and be sure to apply pressure, but NOT rubbing the injection site post-injection. You can use heat, but not cold as that can cause the hormone to crash while in your body - which will make things worse for you, and ibuprofen is always okay if needed. Other than that, you're going to have to let time do its thing.
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2. You can warm the oil by placing the vial into a small bowl of heated water or even running a hair dryer over the syringe pre-injection. I don't personally do this, but I do know that taking a nice hot shower before you pin can help as it relaxes the muscles as well as your mind. Having shaky hands (common) with a razor (needle has a blade on it) is a sure-fire way to do some trauma on that body of yours. Relaxing will help enormously, as well as getting in more experience. You can also take an ibuprofen to ease the PIP if you find it necessary.
3. No. All virgin muscle will be nearly the same. The only location I had relatively little issues with were my delts.
4. In the same vicinity, yes. Be sure to rotate between sites though, you don't want to build up scar tissue by causing trauma to the same site over and over. For a rookie, I'd go R-Quad, L-Quad, R-Delt, L-Delt and repeat. If you're comfortable, you can even bring in glutes or ventrogluteals as the more sites you're comfortable with, the better.
Just stick with it and be sure to apply pressure, but NOT rubbing the injection site post-injection. You can use heat, but not cold as that can cause the hormone to crash while in your body - which will make things worse for you, and ibuprofen is always okay if needed. Other than that, you're going to have to let time do its thing.
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CarelessPassion
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kataklysum
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bury that 1 inch in your quad. i remember my first inject in the quad. did what you did about half way and all the gear didnt go into the muscle. worst pip ive ever had to the point where i could hardly put any weight on that leg i was walking with the biggest pimp limp.
go deep on the other leg and see how that feels. just go nice and slow. my nerves sometimes get a tickle around the 1 inch mark so nice and slow does it.
go deep on the other leg and see how that feels. just go nice and slow. my nerves sometimes get a tickle around the 1 inch mark so nice and slow does it.
halfwit
I like turtles.
I wouldn't rotate just quads personally, although there are worse things you could do for the next 12 weeks.
Unfortunately the term "virgin muscle" as well as the fact that injects hurt less over time is something you're going to have to accept as I very strongly doubt we're going to find a pubmed study done on nerve desensitization over time from intramuscular injections. I can tell you that as nerves do lie closer to the surface of your dermis, you do run the risk of antagonizing them by not injecting deep enough.
I am actually saying both.
1. Your nerves will become less prone to sending you a signal that, "Hey! There's been this little blade inside your leg digging a hole!" over time and you'll likely stop even noticing any discomfort while injecting.
2. As your hands are all shaky and moving uncontrollably, you're doing extra damage to your leg that you don't need to do. Think of it as a jigsaw; you're unintentionally causing little tears and rips inside your muscle tissue, which is going to become inflamed - generating more of a pain response. Experience and becoming comfortable with the process will reduce this.
Yes, bury that 1" needle to the luer next time. Your muscle is more than big enough to accommodate it.
DANGER--US
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If it was me, I would go with ventro glute next. 1 1/2" pin. Just to gauge pip in a different location. What's worse than having one sore? Two sore legs. Then go to the other quad and follow the fine advice of these gentlemen.
cruiser1019
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Some guys love the quad injections. Me it seems like I get a bad pin every 3-4 times. I try to avoid quads if possible. I'd rather pin glutes or my favorite site the ventro glute.
ozzyozzy21
Throwing Cookies
My first week of pins on my first cycle I couldn't do abs because my butt was so sore. This is normal.
FlyMolo
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Hey man I just started my first cycle and I had fairly bad PIP my first few times. I am using 25g 1" pins. With time the hands steady, and that helps a lot. I also found taking a warm bath beforehand and rolling my loaded syringe in a heated towel helps a lot. Also slow steady pressure on plunger. Try not to blast it in there, the quads will take it without leakage but it will hurt more. When using my 1 inch pins in the quad I only leave a MM showing. This is only to prevent it from being buried if some freak accident happens and it breaks off (i.e fainting), maybe the MM will still be showing and I can pull it out.
I just did my second pin in the same site and I can already feel the difference.Even though my PIP didn't start for hours my pin went way smoother this time and it feels different from the first.
I just did my second pin in the same site and I can already feel the difference.Even though my PIP didn't start for hours my pin went way smoother this time and it feels different from the first.
Frank White
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Halfwit hogged this thread...again!! jk...he pretty much summed it all up. If I was going to add anything, i'd say your gonna have to "suck it up" to a certain extent.
jk...he pretty much summed it all up. If I was going to add anything, i'd say your gonna have to "suck it up" to a certain extent.
bushleaguechew
Junior Bodybuilder
It gets better. Just like coughing when you smoke for the first time, you get used to it.
FlyMolo
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What a hypocrite even Jesus used gear...
The deflecting lies run in the family though, his mom tried to claim virgin status while preggo.
