First injection didn't go well, need advice.

[davalanche]

I started using 2ml of Bio tc250 stacked with 1ml of Bio Nandro. My friend advised me to do it in the shoulder and showed me how he does it. My problem was injecting into the shoulder with a 21g 1.5" needle. I am 192lbs and pretty much lean muscle, very low fat. My shoulder is killing me, injection went fine but I feel like it's from the size and length of that needle. Did a cycle years ago and shot into the glute, no problem.
I'm thinking of using the 21g to draw and a 23g 1.5" and going into the glute next time. Any advice on if that would be the way to go, I would appreciate.

 

[shenky]

21g is pretty big. Personally, I get minor PIP everywhere except the glutes, but still rotate injection sites. Try 23g; it might make a huge difference. If not, again, I find the glute to have the least painful PIP.

 

[prisonsex]

I use a 25ga 1" pin. I draw with a 18ga. If that was the first time you injected into your shoulder; 3CCs is a lot. You may have some PIP over the next few days. When I hit my shoulders I don't bottom the 1" pin out.

 

[gram of tren]

sounds like you and your friend need to learn today. why would u inject with a 21guage needle? that's like a harpoon. 1.5inch needle for delts is way too long unless you're a fatass. stick with injecting quads and glutes if you're new to the game. 1-1.5inch for glutes depending on your body fat levels, and 1inch for quads. use a 25 guage pin to do your injections.

 

[davalanche]

Thanks for all the advice, I thought the same thing, this is a harpoon. Seems like 1.5" 25 guage in the glutes is the ticket.

 

[SilverBackGorilla]

23ga 1" is all you need for the glutes, trust me.

 

[Pinkbear]

23g 1 inch to the quads. Nice hunk of meat and you can use both hands. I find if I inject to fast I get PIP nice and slow does it for me

 

[gram of tren]

order 25 guage pins also. if your gear flows thru the 25's use them. it's always a good idea to use the smallest guage possible. I use grapeseed oil to brew my gear so its a bit thinner and flows thru a 25 guage easily.

 

[308power]

order 25 guage pins also. if your gear flows thru the 25's use them. it's always a good idea to use the smallest guage possible. I use grapeseed oil to brew my gear so its a bit thinner and flows thru a 25 guage easily.

If it doesnt flow through 25g once its been heated, I wouldnt use it.

@gramoftren

If that is you in your avatar, you look astounding. Keep it up.

 

[davalanche]

Thanks again bro!

 

[thefantom1]

3 CC's is a lot in the shoulder...I would limit it to 2 CC's in the shoulder. Also us old guys call the 21 g needles "Harpoons". Draw with the 21 and then switch to a 23 or 25 1 inch.

 

[Austinite]

3 CC's is a lot in the shoulder...I would limit it to 2 CC's in the shoulder. Also us old guys call the 21 g needles "Harpoons". Draw with the 21 and then switch to a 23 or 25 1 inch.

Hey fantom, how much a muscle can hold without irritability depends on the size and density of the muscle. This cannot be generalized. Some delts can hold 6 CC with no issues.

 

[KingBF]

draw with 20g and inject 25g 1" for delts, pecs, lats, quads and traps. I only use 1 1/2" for glutes and 23g seems to be perfect