First (ish) cycle please help

[hoganfireman]

Afternoon all, I'll get right to it its all confusing. I'm 36, 6', 217 lbs, 20-26%(need a current measure). I'm on trt, been on trt for a long time now. 3 years ago I did my first test only cycle, 2mL per week, 200mg/mL test cyp. Then I got into a bad snowmobile accident. Recovered, gained weight blah blah blah. I'm down 45 lbs on keto and my regular injection is .9mL test cyp 200mg/mL on Sunday. Bloodwork is all normal, just had a hormone/ lipid/ liver function test all the numbers are in the middle of the range. This is what I'm thinking will help. Test+tren for 10-12 weeks. Clomid start after the cycle is done. I was thinking 1ml/200mg/mL test A x2 weekly. 1.5mL tren 2x weekly. Should it be 1x weekly for both? Should I mix in anavar at week 6? Please Help rookie with first (ish) cycle guidance.

 

[juced_porkchop]

welcome. read all the threads/stickies stuck uptop in the aas section. count this next cycle as your first cycle 200mg ew was barely a cycle and is my hrt...

dont use tren, i rec test only for 14 weeks around 500mg ew WITH an AI start to start of pct.
pct 35-50mg clomid ed and 20mg tamox ed for 4 to 5 weeks (starting 2 weeks after last shot.
but i rec your BF% to get down to 15ish % before starting

 

[appleton111]

you bodyfat needs to go down before starting a cycle. what is it exactly? how long have you been on trt, what dosages?

 

[hoganfireman]

I've been on trt for 8 years now. I am currently taking .9mL 200 mg/mL. 1x weekly usually on Sunday. My last bf measurement was 28% but I've dropped 20 lbs since then. I changed gyms and have not looked at my current %. I'll check at my new gym today about getting a current measurement. I wasn't going to start anything until I hit 200 lbs, by then I figured I'd be below 20%bf.

 

[hoganfireman]

welcome. read all the threads/stickies stuck uptop in the aas section. count this next cycle as your first cycle 200mg ew was barely a cycle and is my hrt...

dont use tren, i rec test only for 14 weeks around 500mg ew WITH an AI start to start of pct.
pct 35-50mg clomid ed and 20mg tamox ed for 4 to 5 weeks (starting 2 weeks after last shot.
but i rec your BF% to get down to 15ish % before starting

I'm sorry, I was taking 200mg/mL 2x/wk so 400 mg/ wk, I did that for 12 weeks and had no pct bc my endo is a d bag and would not entertain the idea of Clomid or Arimidrex. I was seeing the differences in the mirror and certainly on my tracking app. Thanks for the advice.

 

[juced_porkchop]

I'm sorry, I was taking 200mg/mL 2x/wk so 400 mg/ wk, I did that for 12 weeks and had no pct bc my endo is a d bag and would not entertain the idea of Clomid or Arimidrex. I was seeing the differences in the mirror and certainly on my tracking app. Thanks for the advice.

ohh my mystake. and since you are on hrt then no need for PCT, BUT i would still rec an AI ran during and up till a 2-3 weeks past last shot and taper off AI over a week or two imo.

 

[hoganfireman]

Next question, should I run out my test cyp before I start running test A. In other words while I'm continuing to cut weight run my script as normal. Once I'm ready to start the cycle only use test A? I Should not mix them? I know the diff are the esters and Half-Life. Should I wait 2 wks after last cyp injection to start Athenate? After bloodwork or course.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Next question, should I run out my test cyp before I start running test A. In other words while I'm continuing to cut weight run my script as normal. Once I'm ready to start the cycle only use test A? I Should not mix them? I know the diff are the esters and Half-Life. Should I wait 2 wks after last cyp injection to start Athenate? After bloodwork or course.

whats the ester exactly? (small print under main name usually) I have heard of prop and ace and a few others but athenate seems like maybe its just a ugls brand name for enanthate. i suspect this is likely the case and if so you can treat it as if it where cyp since the release and half-life are pretty much the same.
example decabol, primoplex, testodex, masterdone etc.

 

[hoganfireman]

whats the ester exactly? (small print under main name usually) I have heard of prop and ace and a few others but athenate seems like maybe its just a ugls brand name for enanthate. i suspect this is likely the case and if so you can treat it as if it where cyp since the release and half-life are pretty much the same.
example decabol, primoplex, testodex, masterdone etc.

I believe it's cottonseed oil like most other cyp scripts. Cyp's half life is 2 weeks, told to me by the endo. Test A is one week a little more fast acting.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Test A ???? did you mean "E" enanthate ?

Tren may be Tren Acetate ?

PLease you need to look at your bottles and read them correctly. YOU seem to be very confused. Never discuss volume for dose . describe mgs for dose.

 

[T-RexAlpha]

Adjust your diet, and drop bodyfat% before starting a cycle. Get your blood work done. Run Test-C or E by itself. You need to see how your body reacts. By adding more compounds, you could have multiple sides. Read the stickys, they will help with proper protocols, AI's, and PCT