first low test high tren e cycle

Thanks. So I'm not the only one who s not getting sides from tren e. I'm only running 600/wk but that should be enough for me. When I use tren a, sleep is very hard to get, tren cough, bad night sweats and bad dreams.

One thing I've read about tren E vs tren A is that there are two streams of thought:

1/ People always recommend Ace for the first time as if you don't like it, you stop and it's out of your blood in 2-3 days
2/ Some people recommend tren E for first time as they don't get the side effects that come with ace.
-- Maybe it's that tren E is smoother with less of a high peak to trough that comes with ace, but there are plenty of threads (here and elsewhere) with people swearing by tren E first time.

Myself, I've never tried tren so I can't comment from a personal point of view...however it does raise questions for when I do want to use it.
 
Whats the downside to starting your first cycle of Tren A with 25mg or 50mg or some pretty conservative amount to see how the sides hit you? If Tren A should be pinned eod, then starting off at 25 going up shouldn't be a big deal--you could reach 100 or 200 in just a week or two (provided that you didn't mind or didn't get the sides).
 
Whats the downside to starting your first cycle of Tren A with 25mg or 50mg or some pretty conservative amount to see how the sides hit you? If Tren A should be pinned eod, then starting off at 25 going up shouldn't be a big deal--you could reach 100 or 200 in just a week or two (provided that you didn't mind or didn't get the sides).

That's kind of how it should be done as most sides (IME) are dose dependent. I don't think I'd start that low (75-100mg/wk) is pretty miniscule, but 350mg or so as a start is never a bad idea. Just remember that it still can take a week or two (even with acetate) before sides/benefits start showing up.
 
Whats the downside to starting your first cycle of Tren A with 25mg or 50mg or some pretty conservative amount to see how the sides hit you? If Tren A should be pinned eod, then starting off at 25 going up shouldn't be a big deal--you could reach 100 or 200 in just a week or two (provided that you didn't mind or didn't get the sides).

I had my first run of tren a recently and I did 50 eod. I was told its not gonna do much and they were right. Regardless , on my next run I will start at 75 eod and be ready to bump it to 100 within the first 2-3 weeks in. But at 50 eod and not feeling sides doesnt mean its not providing its anabolic benefit either! I mean why not feel comfortable during your cycle and enjoy it. Changes may not be dramatic but neither are the negative sides. Depends on what you wanna deal with.
 
I'm running test 300,/week and 600 tren e a week. On week 7now and I haven't had any night sweets or trouble sleeping. I've heard the sides are suppose to be not as bad but I really am not having any except trouble in the sack with my girl but we're having problems right now anyway. I'm no caber twice a week and an ai. I'm not new at any means. Just never tried running a cycle this way. I am moody and temper bit higher then usual. Please let me hear your experiences with cycles like this and commits he you can help. Thanks guys!
AT WEEK 8-10 ( USUALLY WHEN I STOP ANYWAY) IT CAN GET PRETTY HARSH on sides.
kavakava for night and day and prami on hand i highly rec
 
AT WEEK 8-10 ( USUALLY WHEN I STOP ANYWAY) IT CAN GET PRETTY HARSH on sides.
kavakava for night and day and prami on hand i highly rec

Yeah this is what I was thinking. Give it a few more weeks being that is tren e and I'll prob get some sides. I'm taking caber twice a week over prami. Prami made me feel like shit big time. What is kavakava my friend ?
 
kava is a root found in oceanic island nations. Namely samoa and fiji. It is said to have medicinal benefit. It can also be made into one HORRIBLE tasting strong alcoholic beverage, also known as kava. Not sure on its application to AAS
 
kava is a root found in oceanic island nations. Namely samoa and fiji. It is said to have medicinal benefit. It can also be made into one HORRIBLE tasting strong alcoholic beverage, also known as kava. Not sure on its application to AAS

Ok thanks. Well I won't need any kava, haven't drank in almost 5 years lol
 
kava is a root found in oceanic island nations. Namely samoa and fiji. It is said to have medicinal benefit. It can also be made into one HORRIBLE tasting strong alcoholic beverage, also known as kava. Not sure on its application to AAS

it is not an alcoholic beverage, its a kava drink, water and kava and usually a little milk added. you let powdered root sit in the water for 1-3 days then strain out the root and drink as needed. it does taste like shit IMO
used it for many years off and on.
 
Ok thanks. Well I won't need any kava, haven't drank in almost 5 years lol

its not an alcoholic drink, he is miss informed, not sure where he read that (i am sure it can be done, but thats not how people use it , specially the islanders.) they have used it for hundreds if not thousands of years. so your good.

its great with tren, good for sleep and mood and anxiety. take a bit too much and you may feel a bit sleepy, take a decent amount or low amount and its light mellow feeling
 
its not an alcoholic drink, he is miss informed, not sure where he read that (i am sure it can be done, but thats not how people use it , specially the islanders.) they have used it for hundreds if not thousands of years. so your good.

its great with tren, good for sleep and mood and anxiety. take a bit too much and you may feel a bit sleepy, take a decent amount or low amount and its light mellow feeling
Wow, thanks bro. I'm interested. Where can one find some ? I did grab a bottle of l-tryptophan for the same reason. Taking 1000mgs/ day. Seems to help.
 
Just a quick update. Been taking cialis daly at a low dose. Seems to be helping my ummm problem. Also been getting nights sweats. Think it was just a bit early to worry but the tren e. all is well !
 
It's kinda a debate on low test, high tren, high test, low tren
I ran low test higher tren for awhile then the limp dick shit was happening, it seems worse cause u start to think about limp dick issues next go around, but in my case I ran low test higher tren for a few months then switched to higher test, lower tren
Right now running 800mg/test, tren a 75mg ed, and no issues what so ever bro, maybe give that a go and reverse things around
 
But as for me I am just a tren molecule anyways lol going on week 20 on tren :)
Yes and tren cough blows, try mixing some b12 with the tren if your getting that dreaded cough seems to take away the post injection cough shit
 
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Do you guys get tren cough on tren e like you do tren a ? This is my first go on tren e and I haven't had much if any issues with the cough. When I run tren a I get it as soon as I inject sometimes. Feel like Im dying lol.
 
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