First PH cycle advice needed please

[gearengineer]

As of now I am considering running a 4 week cycle of xtreme DMZ. This is my first cycle but I feel that I have done enough research and I want to get some good gains since I will be spending money on all the proper ancillaries. I have spent a little over a year researching and feel that I am ready to explore the world of prohormones/DS. The set up will look like this:

Xtreme DMZ: 32/32/48/48
Cycle Support
Taurine as needed
TUDCA
Super Cissus
HCGenerate: as soon as I am shut down I will start this
Raloxifene: 60/60/60/60 I am currently two weeks into taking Ralox in order to try and resolve some pubertal gyno development and thought this would be a good time to cycle due to the fact that I will already be keeping estrogen in check

PCT:
Torem 90/90/60/60
Cycle Support
Whatever is left of the HCgenerate
Aromasin 0/0/0/20/20/10/10

I plan on purchasing some aromasin to have on hand incase any gyno flare up and will use that toward the end of pct to prevent any rebound.

Your comments and critique is appreciated. Thanks.

 

[Colbert]

If I were you I would get some Pharm grade Nolva (you can get them online without prescription). They can be a little bit expensive but totally worth it and they great for getting rid of gyno (if for some reason it happens).

I would also add DAA to your PCT. It's a really good test booster and it doesn't hurt to run it.

Also try to run some multi-vitamin and fish oil followed up with some cardio (at least 3x a week) to keep your appetite high and improve your cardio vascular)

 

[gearengineer]

If I were you I would get some Pharm grade Nolva (you can get them online without prescription). They can be a little bit expensive but totally worth it and they great for getting rid of gyno (if for some reason it happens).

I would also add DAA to your PCT. It's a really good test booster and it doesn't hurt to run it.

Also try to run some multi-vitamin and fish oil followed up with some cardio (at least 3x a week) to keep your appetite high and improve your cardio vascular)

As far as the nolva from what I umderstand ralox is better for gyno sp that is why I wen with that but I appreciate your input. The only thing is would it be better to stop the ralox on cycle or is it okay to keep running it. I just dont want to hinder gains.

I will get some DAA and take some fish oil and multi.

 

[Noob84]

I's say Forma Stanzol all the way through and some N2Guard.

 

[MeatHead96]

I's say Forma Stanzol all the way through and some N2Guard.

Agreed, I would look into the new line of PH's at n2bm too. There are some awesome combos in there.

 

[gymrat827]

Agreed, I would look into the new line of PH's at n2bm too. There are some awesome combos in there.

I'm with you on that.



OP, nothing is going to work as good as ralox when it comes to gyno.

Nolva is a close 2nd, but is 2nd none the less. I'd keep taking the ralox and see how far u can shrink down the existing gyno. Especially with the ph u chose.

Start taking forma stanzol after to stop any rebound and than jump on cycle.

I know you want to most likely start ASAP but getting rid of the gyno should be you top priority.

 

[juced_porkchop]

As of now I am considering running a 4 week cycle of xtreme DMZ. This is my first cycle but I feel that I have done enough research and I want to get some good gains since I will be spending money on all the proper ancillaries. I have spent a little over a year researching and feel that I am ready to explore the world of prohormones/DS. The set up will look like this:

Xtreme DMZ: 32/32/48/48
Cycle Support
Taurine as needed
TUDCA
Super Cissus
HCGenerate: as soon as I am shut down I will start this
Raloxifene: 60/60/60/60 I am currently two weeks into taking Ralox in order to try and resolve some pubertal gyno development and thought this would be a good time to cycle due to the fact that I will already be keeping estrogen in check

PCT:
Torem 90/90/60/60
Cycle Support
Whatever is left of the HCgenerate
Aromasin 0/0/0/20/20/10/10

I plan on purchasing some aromasin to have on hand incase any gyno flare up and will use that toward the end of pct to prevent any rebound.

Your comments and critique is appreciated. Thanks.

simple, dont do an oral only cycle, never do one wihtout a test base, even just an hrt amount.

read the stickies, here are a couple links:
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/598646-oral-anabolic-steroid-cycles.html
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...rs-gyno-post-cycle-therapy-pct-must-read.html
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/153723-300mg-vs-600mg-testosterone.html


Welcome to the forum!

 

[gearengineer]

Thank you guys for all of your input it its greatly appreciated!

I kind of had some second thoughts for this cycle. I decided to back it down a notch and go with halo-25. The new set up will look like this.

Halo-25: 50/50/75/75
Dermacrine
Ralox: 60/60/60/60
Aromasin: 12.5 eod and will adjust dosage accordingly
Cycle Support
Taurine
Liv-52
Cissus
Fish Oil
Multi

PCT:
Torem 90/60/60/30
Aromasin 12.5 eod and will taper at end
Cycle Support
DAA 3/3/3/3

In regards to the forma...is it really necesarry in PCT if I have torem and DAA I feel like that should cover restoring my test levels and the aromasin will prevent any rebound. I also feel that the dermacrine on cycle will help me to transition nicely into PCT.

Again this is my first cycle and all of your advice is much appreciated. Let me know what you guys think.

 

[gearengineer]

Thank you guys for all of your input it its greatly appreciated!

I kind of had some second thoughts for this cycle. I decided to back it down a notch and go with halo-25. The new set up will look like this.

Halo-25: 50/50/75/75
Dermacrine
Ralox: 60/60/60/60
Aromasin: 12.5 eod and will adjust dosage accordingly
Cycle Support
Taurine
Liv-52
Cissus
Fish Oil
Multi

PCT:
Torem 90/60/60/30
Aromasin 12.5 eod and will taper at end
Cycle Support
DAA 3/3/3/3

In regards to the forma...is it really necesarry in PCT if I have torem and DAA I feel like that should cover restoring my test levels and the aromasin will prevent any rebound. I also feel that the dermacrine on cycle will help me to transition nicely into PCT.

Again this is my first cycle and all of your advice is much appreciated. Let me know what you guys think.

Bump

 

[Noob84]

Halo 25 comes as 60 caps for 35$ from what I've seen.
Helladrol gives you 180 caps for 60 bucks.
Also, running 50/50/75/75 is a waste IMHO.
Have you done your research? This stuff doesn't really do it's thing until 3 weeks in, so I suggest 6 weeks.
Start at 75, evaluate sides and go from there. I plan on running 75/100/100/125/125/125 depending on how I feel (currently last day of week 2).

Seems to me like you are not ready.
Neither based on your knowledge of Halo, nor the fact that you need to sort your boobs out...

 

[gearengineer]

Halo 25 comes as 60 caps for 35$ from what I've seen.
Helladrol gives you 180 caps for 60 bucks.
Also, running 50/50/75/75 is a waste IMHO.
Have you done your research? This stuff doesn't really do it's thing until 3 weeks in, so I suggest 6 weeks.
Start at 75, evaluate sides and go from there. I plan on running 75/100/100/125/125/125 depending on how I feel (currently last day of week 2).

Seems to me like you are not ready.
Neither based on your knowledge of Halo, nor the fact that you need to sort your boobs out...

I LOLed at this.

1. I chose Lgi Halo-25 due to the fact that it is tried and true and I know Lgi is a reputable company so that is what i felt comfortable with. I paid $52 for two bottles which will give me plenty.

2. I am starting at a low dose and will change it accordingly this is just a mock cycle. I may run it longer then 4 weeks but again I will play that by ear.

Have you noticed any sides on yours and how do you like it so far? Id like to keep tabs on how yours goes and maybe I will run it how you are.

 

[Noob84]

I did too...

Just go to my log in the journal section if you want to know how things are going for me.

I sense a somewhat unfriendly undertone.
Also, reading between the lines it seems you most likely are on the young side of things.
Just an FYI - you do realize you'll be out about 2-2.5k $ running this cycle, right?
Just between supps and food over the course of 10 weeks.

 

[gearengineer]

I did too...

Just go to my log in the journal section if you want to know how things are going for me.

I sense a somewhat unfriendly undertone.
Also, reading between the lines it seems you most likely are on the young side of things.
Just an FYI - you do realize you'll be out about 2-2.5k $ running this cycle, right?
Just between supps and food over the course of 10 weeks.

I subscribed a look forward to following how it goes for you.

As for cost it should be closer to 1k due to the fact that I have all my supps on hand and that was a little over 300. I have plenty of venison so that will help with the food bill.