Nope, didnt do any stupid ones first, unless of course a 6 week cycle of Test/Dbol is considered stupid. They way I administered it was kind of stupid though as I took the advice of an old schooler and tapered up and then down. But still I only averaged 350 mg per week of Test throughout the 6 weeks and I only used the Dbol for the first 4 weeks at 20 mg per day, gained 15 solid pounds off that.