I did a 12 wk test e and dbol cycle and had a long/hard recovery. Does anyone know if recovery gets better as one becomes more tolerant of steriods or as one has more cycles under their belt? I was thinking of running another cycle but just test this time with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and clomid and nolva for pct.
First recovery from aas hardest?
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it gets progressively worse
Why do you say that? Even with simple cycles such as test only?
Long and hard because I felt like a diabetic without insulin for a 5 day period when the test left my body. Took about 6-8 wks to get my natural pumps back in the gym. Had to get picked up by an ambulence and taken to the ER cuz i had a panic attack since the shit made me nervous as hell when I came off, resting heart rate was 160bpm while lying down that day. THis was a caused from a tight throat that was making it hard to breath and made me even more nervous.
As for a post cycle therapy (pct), I ran nolva 40/40/20/20 that started 2 wks after last shot. I just figured that would be sufficient cuz everyone says use "either nolva OR clomid", although I should of ran both along with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle.
Wow man sorry to hear about that! Don't wish that on anyone. but you kinda answered your own question with the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) usage. I can bet your balls were completely inactive my man. You needed a major jump start of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to get em rollin again. Did you ever get bloods drawn mid-cycle, end of cycle and end of pct? well worth the money IMO especially in your situation with all the harsh sides. Without knowing whats going on inside you how do you know how to combat the problem. kinda like throwing darts a a dartboard....accept the dartboard is your health.
Next time I would also add some OTC stuff in PCT like HCGenerate, Unleashed, forma, PhytoSerms and if you want to stay anabolic OastSarms.
So its really not a question of diminishing returns with each cycle, its more a question of how to complete each cycle to its fullest potential.
Next time I would also add some OTC stuff in PCT like HCGenerate, Unleashed, forma, PhytoSerms and if you want to stay anabolic OastSarms.
So its really not a question of diminishing returns with each cycle, its more a question of how to complete each cycle to its fullest potential.
I should of had bloodwork done when I was crashing during post cycle therapy (pct), although I would've had to admit to my doctor I was juicin which happened anyway after I went to the ER. I got hormonal panel done after my trip to the ER and my test levels were high and free test or something was above average. THis test was also done after 3 nights of hardly any sleep since i was traumatized from hospital visit with no answers at the time.
I might run another cycle with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and better post cycle therapy (pct), although still not sure. With all that shit I sent through I mite give up roids for good. Its funny that I never hear any other people with a similar experience as mine. Maybe I will time my next cycle so it ends at the beginning of summer instead of at the start of school due to less stressful time. Who knows, my trip to the ER might not have been related to aas, although it still seems like it did.
THanks for the info. I will def look into that.
Die$eL~Man
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take some time off
Will do. Its been since Aug 2010 since my last inj and i'm starting to get my feet back on the ground and finding the cause and solutions to the problem.
some people respond differently my man. different bodies and chemistry
ive only ran 2 cycles of test currently on 3rd
first one was harder to keep gains. 215 on and dropped to about 210 when off
my second one i got to 222 and atucally lost like 2 lbs after everything lol. i was pretty pumped about it.
i ran a standard clomid post cycle therapy (pct). simple and effective for me . sides are a little harsh but i kept gains along with a solid diet and training regimin.
ive only ran 2 cycles of test currently on 3rd
first one was harder to keep gains. 215 on and dropped to about 210 when off
my second one i got to 222 and atucally lost like 2 lbs after everything lol. i was pretty pumped about it.
i ran a standard clomid post cycle therapy (pct). simple and effective for me . sides are a little harsh but i kept gains along with a solid diet and training regimin.
Yea its called elevated estrogen and no test coming out of your ball sac. Exactly why a proper post cycle therapy (pct) is more important than your aas cycle.
Massive123
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Cutter answer on this one. You gotta learn your body
Cutter answer on this one. You gotta learn your body
Yea i'm starting to learn that but its the learning part that is killing me lol.
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the problem is you didn't run a real post cycle therapy (pct). nolv just doesn't cut it. Clomid should be used with Nolva. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) should be run the whole cycle and then blasted prior to pct.
Your right about me not running a correct post cycle therapy (pct), theres too many people out there saying to pick nolva or clomid instead of running both.
I don't think i see myself running another cycle anytime soon, maybe never again. I never had this type of shit happen before I crashed during pct.
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