First Time PH. Advice please.

[Pinwheel]

Hello everyone!

I'm going to start a Helladrol cycle to wet my feet before going to full blown gear. Don't have a ton of cash on hand, but here is what I'm looking at doing.

Preload with 2 weeks of RS Transaderm
1-6 Helladrol 75/75/100/100/100/125
1-6 Forged Liver Support
1-6 Transaderm
4-10 Bioforge Test Booster (already have it)

PCT
7-10 Forged Post Cycle

Other Supps:
Whey Protein
Casein Protein
Multi-vitamin
Fish Oil
Taurine (dosed as needed for back pumps)
Kre-Alkyline Creatine
C4 once I'm in PCT

How does this look for an inexpensive first cycle? Thinking I covered all the bases. If there are other recommendations that aren't a ton of money, please let me know. If this stack does the job as/is, that'd be preferable. Thanks!

 

[CptFKNplanet]

Drop the Forged Liver Support and pick up some NAC. Don't use the test booster or the post cycle supps you have, at the minimum pick up some clomid.

 

[Pinwheel]

That's actually a cheaper option. Does it work as well?

1-6 Helladrol 75/75/100/100/100/125
1-6 NAC dosed how? 1ed or what?
1-6 Transaderm

PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25?
Nolva in case of gyno.

Sound like a decent first cycle? As I said, just trying to get my feet wet. Looking to put on 5lbs of lean muscle and maybe drop 1-2%bf. Currently I'm 6'1 194 12%bf. Just bulked up 10lbs and am eating at maintenance to recomp before going up any more. Started at 184 and 9%bf.

 

[Pinwheel]

Anyone have a trusted site for Clomid/Nolva in the US? If not I might have to spend some money and get the pct that's offered on mrsupps or ntbm.

 

[Colbert]

Anyone have a trusted site for Clomid/Nolva in the US? If not I might have to spend some money and get the pct that's offered on mrsupps or ntbm.

Can't post links on here and what they offer is not the same thing as clomid or nolva....clomid and nolva are research products.


Also I do not understand why not use test booster during pct? I would use nolva, daa, and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like erase during the pct.

 

[gymrat827]

Ag guys is good. I'd still get some hcgenerate and phytoserms tho.

Ntbm has an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) now so I'd be using that in pct too.

 

[nickb86]

run clomid and proven test booster of your choosing. Hcgenerate, test infusion, phytoserms and forged methyl are all good choices imo and will help immensely in pct. I always run a mix of t booster serms and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in oct whether on injectables, oral aas or pro-hormones. Attack your pct from all angles and recover aswell as best as possible.

 

[Killinit1]

Why? Never understood the whole PH thing.

 

[Pinwheel]

Well, I chose Helladrol since it has the least chance to aromitize but still provide some gains. I ordered some Clomid and nolva (just in case I am gyno sensitive). Locked up NAC since it covers the bases for cycle support.

1-6 Helladrol 75/75/100/100/100/125 depending on sides
1-6 NAC
1-6 Transaderm

PCT
7-10 Clomid
7-10 Bioforge (can't hurt)

Other supps:
Casein protein
Whey Protein
Multi-vit
Vit C
Fish Oil
Taurine
Kre-alkaline creatine

I will be using Transaderm for 2 weeks prior and have been using one of my two free bottles of bioforge for the last month. I will start a log and see how it goes. If I don't get good results on this cycle as a recomp, I'm probably just going to go with injectable test next.

 

[gymrat827]

I would be on an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) while on Transderm. It will convert much much better with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) stopping thins from turning into Estrogen. Liquidex would be your goto, it just came out.

 

[DaBlob]

Wow this is all intriguing to say the least....

 

[zimmy44]

The rest of the guys have given you solid advice on here! If you run it, good luck and keep us updated!