flabby chest after DBOL only cycle

[shivanandroy]

Hi All,

This is my first post here. I was on 4 week DBOL only cycle (30 mg). In the 3rd week, I noticed I had some fatty tissue on my pec. My pecs are well defined but they bounce a lill when I jump. When I flex my pecs are absolutely fine. In the 3rd week, I took adex .5 mg ED. Now I m in my 4th week, I have introduced 20mg Nolva ED only. I have stopped taking DBOL from today onwards and stopped my cycle just 5 days beforehand. I will start my PCT tommrw Nolva (40/40/20/20).

Just curious to knw if evry1 develops a sort of some fatty tissue on chest or its me. How to control it ? I knw its due harmonal imbalance. But hoping it might get better once my PCT is over and Test level are back to normal.

Any help is highly appreciated.

 

[Manski]

Dbol only was your first mistake. Up your prob just retaining water.

 

[shivanandroy]

Dbol only was your first mistake. Up your prob just retaining water.

Any suggestions on what to do that might help ?

 

[MJF]

Any suggestions on what to do that might help ?

All you can really do is continue with your plan. Hopefully it's just water retention amd it'll go away. Any lumps under your nips?

 

[Mountain-Man]

Time u just have to wait it out and hope it's water retention

 

[shivanandroy]

All you can really do is continue with your plan. Hopefully it's just water retention amd it'll go away. Any lumps under your nips?

a very very very very slight lump if u press it too hard then u ll feel it. Thats why started my PCT with NOLVA.

 

[shivanandroy]

Time u just have to wait it out and hope it's water retention

so if it is water retention; will it go after PCT ?

 

[carverelli]

Have you realized your mistake yet?

 

[tbonexl]

You are growing boobs and turning into a female! Oral only cycles are for women only! Everything shuts down your natty test. You need test being a man. Test is the base for all cycles. Good thing you caught it quick or you would've been kaitlin jenner lol!

 

[shivanandroy]

Have you realized your mistake yet?

May be I shouldn't have gone with DBOL only. should have included test also. anything more I can do at this point in time to make the situation better.

 

[shivanandroy]

You are growing boobs and turning into a female! Oral only cycles are for women only! Everything shuts down your natty test. You need test being a man. Test is the base for all cycles. Good thing you caught it quick or you would've been kaitlin jenner lol!

That's too scary. Pls dont say that. help me with how should I go ahead now.

 

[stilltryin]

Hey bro,

If its a lump you probably have gyno. Yes your mistake was that you took dbol only. Anyway what is done is done. Next cycle do some more research and start off small man, like just test at 500mg EW. Don't go the way of the buffoons at the gym, you dont want to be a yo yo. Ok to get rid of your lump you need an AI. The best one for your situation is letrozole as it will literally break down that lump that is on your tits. Do some research around it and you can buy it for "research" purposes quite easily. Good luck!

Lol and dont panic man the guys are playing with you. Take my advice and research AI and letrozole, you will be ok

 

[MJF]

You don't need an ai, you need a serm which is what you're taking/about to take with the nolva. Taking an ai, especially letro, will crash your estradiol levels to zero. Sure it's advertised to help reverse gyno, but the cost is too high(sides).

Nolva for now like planned, keep your diet in check, monitor your progress. If it doesn't go down at the end of your pct, there may be a couple other remedies to try. Time and nolva is your answer as said in aboit reply 3.

Test should always be the base of any cycle as you know now.

 

[SJC]

You need to stop everything except for maybe the Nolva. You need to buy clomid. Run a full PCT and then do a lot more resarch on what the fuck you are doing

Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

For a month

 

[stilltryin]

You don't need an ai, you need a serm which is what you're taking/about to take with the nolva. Taking an ai, especially letro, will crash your estradiol levels to zero. Sure it's advertised to help reverse gyno, but the cost is too high(sides).

Nolva for now like planned, keep your diet in check, monitor your progress. If it doesn't go down at the end of your pct, there may be a couple other remedies to try. Time and nolva is your answer as said in aboit reply 3.

Test should always be the base of any cycle as you know now.

The crash to zero depends on the amount of letro he takes

 

[tbonexl]

Hey bro,

If its a lump you probably have gyno. Yes your mistake was that you took dbol only. Anyway what is done is done. Next cycle do some more research and start off small man, like just test at 500mg EW. Don't go the way of the buffoons at the gym, you dont want to be a yo yo. Ok to get rid of your lump you need an AI. The best one for your situation is letrozole as it will literally break down that lump that is on your tits. Do some research around it and you can buy it for "research" purposes quite easily. Good luck!

Lol and dont panic man the guys are playing with you. Take my advice and research AI and letrozole, you will be ok

This is not good advice to treat gyno. Letro is a very oldschool way of treating gyno. It will most likely crash your estrogen and then you'll have even more issues. The best serm for treating gyno is ralox. There is a thread on gyno in the ology faq's thread. I suggest you read it over and other threads in there too. There's one on oral only cycles too. Stilltryin, you should give it a read too...

 

[MJF]

The crash to zero depends on the amount of letro he takes

On cycle, guys take 100mcg of letro and there's still the possibility of crashing their e2. He has zero test in his system, letro will crash him. I'm not the smartest guy around or the most technical with medical terminology and chemistry. This is know from personal experience though.

 

[MJF]

I have a bad case of saggy boob from gyno I got probably 15 years ago. I've most likely read every thread here that pertains to gyno, plus many, many google searches. Even tried the letro route. Tried it as my ai @ .25mg eod while on 100mg/week test c. Crashed my e2. Even oit of desperation to see an improvement, tried some cooky letro treatment I found online where you step up letro amount each week to some ridiculous amount like 2mg/day or something crazy like that. Crashed my e2 quickly there.

Raloxefene is said to work. I recently read where it's not good to stay on it too long. Something with bone density or bone brittleness. My memory is bad. Nolva is also said to help reverse fresh cases of gyno.

 

[SJC]

Never read where Nolva will reverse Gyno. It will stop the effects of high E2 meaning that the E2 that is currently in your system will no longer cause it to get worse but reversal is questionable

All I know is without any Testosterone in your systme any AI will crash you. Even at a minor dose.

 

[MJF]

Now you're gonna make me go search for it again. I feel like it was just a topic here last week or so. I'm off to search cause maybe I read it wrong.