flabby chest after DBOL only cycle

[MJF]

It seems you can find as many posts saying tamoxifen does nothing for gyno reversal as you can ones that say it helps. But it is referenced in Austinite's gyno reversal thread.
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...agement-gynecomastia-prevention-reversal.html

 

[stilltryin]

Im not the most advanced chemical guy either guys. I am just letting him know what I found from personal experience. OP don't take my advice as gospel. Other members on here are a lot more knowledgable and experienced than I am. Any case don't jump into it, read around what others are recommednign

 

[shivanandroy]

It seems I hv done a major blunder in my system. IF it is gyno, then it is a frsh case i guess.I will take nolva 40/40/20/20 and check my diet + cardio. nd report my progress. If it doesn't then I ll move to ralox.

@MJF is right. AI at this point in time will crash my system as I HAVE ZERO TEST. Ny ways to increase my test in the system ??

 

[Milton]

Really good advice here hope you pay it some mind.

 

[MJF]

It seems I hv done a major blunder in my system. IF it is gyno, then it is a frsh case i guess.I will take nolva 40/40/20/20 and check my diet + cardio. nd report my progress. If it doesn't then I ll move to ralox.

@MJF is right. AI at this point in time will crash my system as I HAVE ZERO TEST. Ny ways to increase my test in the system ??

Pct is the way. If yoir system is going to restart, pct is what will do it. Alot of peole use clomid along with nolva for pct. I'm not an expert as I'm on trt and never had to do pct.

 

[shivanandroy]

Yeah!! This is worth reading. I wanted to knw if it is watr retention or some fat deposited.. Can this be gone once PCT is done.. Just curious
M posting my pic for ur reference.

https://app.box.com/s/bx8khjuydk80snyac3f4g560yjtkpc5y

https://app.box.com/s/qrpn5tub1p4zyy3we0mfq3o3b9oo29na

 

[maurij1]

It seems I hv done a major blunder in my system. IF it is gyno, then it is a frsh case i guess.I will take nolva 40/40/20/20 and check my diet + cardio. nd report my progress. If it doesn't then I ll move to ralox.

@MJF is right. AI at this point in time will crash my system as I HAVE ZERO TEST. Ny ways to increase my test in the system ??

Yeah you screwed up but all is not lost. Just go through the PCT like everyone is saying and you should be fine. I did the same thing for my first cycle, Dbol/Whinny and after PCT I was fine although still a little bloated. Give it a good month after your pct for the bloat to come off and the fleshy chest will most likely disappear to....mine did! More importantly...don't obsess about it, just learn from it and move on...with just plain test next time.

 

[ELicit23]

It seems you can find as many posts saying tamoxifen does nothing for gyno reversal as you can ones that say it helps. But it is referenced in Austinite's gyno reversal thread.
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...agement-gynecomastia-prevention-reversal.html

Followed this, helped slightly. I still had to use Letro cuz hunk wasn't fully gone... I forgot how much though... 3J put me on to it while I was on his diet... It was something ridiculous though that had me feeling like shit...

Anyway, OP read that link, follow it and if it's still lumpy, Letro will help. Talking from experience.

 

[shivanandroy]

Yeah!! This is worth reading. I wanted to knw if it is watr retention or some fat deposited.. Can this be gone once PCT is done.. Just curious
M posting my pic for ur reference.

https://app.box.com/s/bx8khjuydk80snyac3f4g560yjtkpc5y

https://app.box.com/s/qrpn5tub1p4zyy3we0mfq3o3b9oo29na

Pls can anyone comment on it. Whether I can loose these chest fat or bloat once PCT is over. Or ny other remedies I need to follow. Any tips for removing the bloat or water retention. Help please. I m too scared now.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

MJF is correct. AI's should be used to manage estrogen = PREVENT gyno, use SERMs (like nolva and even better, raloxifene) to treat gyno.

 

[shivanandroy]

MJF is correct. AI's should be used to manage estrogen = PREVENT gyno, use SERMs (like nolva and even better, raloxifene) to treat gyno.

Can I take test now after 3 weeks for DBOL only. because there is zero test in my system. along side I can take adex .5 mg. I really want to get rid of my flabby pecs.

 

[shivanandroy]

pls. help me guys.. any kind of help is highly appreciated

 

[Harnold]

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Hi All,

This is my first post here. I was on 4 week DBOL only cycle (30 mg). In the 3rd week, I noticed I had some fatty tissue on my pec. My pecs are well defined but they bounce a lill when I jump. When I flex my pecs are absolutely fine. In the 3rd week, I took adex .5 mg ED. Now I m in my 4th week, I have introduced 20mg Nolva ED only. I have stopped taking DBOL from today onwards and stopped my cycle just 5 days beforehand. I will start my PCT tommrw Nolva (40/40/20/20).

Just curious to knw if evry1 develops a sort of some fatty tissue on chest or its me. How to control it ? I knw its due harmonal imbalance. But hoping it might get better once my PCT is over and Test level are back to normal.

Any help is highly appreciated.

Man just leave your tits alone. Everyone panics about gyno but it's just your tits have loosened up some as I suspect you're just paranoid. If you diet down a bit I'm guessing it will lessen around you tits too.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Can I take test now after 3 weeks for DBOL only. because there is zero test in my system. along side I can take adex .5 mg. I really want to get rid of my flabby pecs.

If you want to continue your cycle, yes you can add testosterone now. The sooner the better. I hope you have an AI on hand though as you're going to need it, especially with the dbol on board. Dbol aromatizes so at the moment you have zero testosterone and in all likelihood, high estrogens (estradiol.) Either abort cycle and PCT, learn how to do things better next time.. or add test and wing it, but seriously you need to learn a LOT more about what you're doing and fast... otherwise you're going to run into many more problems.

 

[DickBlazer]

I've seen studies indicating letro actually increases testosterone levels. I use letro more than most because its the only thing that will keep my gyno at bay. I seem to have no issues with estrogen crash as I always feel better running letro vs any other AI. I also use very minimal testosterone on cycle because as soon as i do....bam, gyno and sides. But blood tests have revealed I do have estrogen levels on the high side of normal off cycle. Everyone is different I suppose but I've ran a few zero testosterone cycles and been just fine, in fact recovery was easy. A dbol only cycle is no big deal in my eyes. But that shit certainly requires an AI if you have gyno issues. Very large conversion to estrogen as we all know.

 

[oldmusclemike]

If you want to continue your cycle, yes you can add testosterone now. The sooner the better. I hope you have an AI on hand though as you're going to need it, especially with the dbol on board. Dbol aromatizes so at the moment you have zero testosterone and in all likelihood, high estrogens (estradiol.) Either abort cycle and PCT, learn how to do things better next time.. or add test and wing it, but seriously you need to learn a LOT more about what you're doing and fast... otherwise you're going to run into many more problems.

This is good ^^^^. Do not add test if you do not have your AI. If you do leave the Dbol of course. Add test @ 500mg wk Plus Arimidex at .125 ED . Get BW asap and go from there. I think you are in a panic mode, however if you give us a pic we would know better

 

[shivanandroy]

This is good ^^^^. Do not add test if you do not have your AI. If you do leave the Dbol of course. Add test @ 500mg wk Plus Arimidex at .125 ED . Get BW asap and go from there. I think you are in a panic mode, however if you give us a pic we would know better

Here's the PIC:

https://app.box.com/s/bx8khjuydk80snyac3f4g560yjtkpc5y

https://app.box.com/s/qrpn5tub1p4zyy3we0mfq3o3b9oo29na

 

[shivanandroy]

I perused through many blogs on steroid forum and found that forma stenzole can really work on reducing estrogens as well as my fat on my chest area. Any one has got any idea on this

 

[shivanandroy]

I've seen studies indicating letro actually increases testosterone levels. I use letro more than most because its the only thing that will keep my gyno at bay. I seem to have no issues with estrogen crash as I always feel better running letro vs any other AI. I also use very minimal testosterone on cycle because as soon as i do....bam, gyno and sides. But blood tests have revealed I do have estrogen levels on the high side of normal off cycle. Everyone is different I suppose but I've ran a few zero testosterone cycles and been just fine, in fact recovery was easy. A dbol only cycle is no big deal in my eyes. But that shit certainly requires an AI if you have gyno issues. Very large conversion to estrogen as we all know.

I think this is where I went wrong. I started with Adex .5 mg in my second week. May I am heavy prone to estrogen related problems. it got me flabby chest. I think its some fatty tissue or water retention on my chest which gives a look to that of bouncing chest. Can I run Forma stenzole to reduce estrogen n fats on my pec??

 

[bigtimechief]

Relax buddy. You will be fine.

If I was you, i'd continue on with your PCT as planned.

Unfortunately, I've had gyno many times. It's still there to some extent. Discontinuing what is irritating it is the most help, and in my case, PCT and time off solves the problem. A lot of good advice here, but sometimes the community can be a bit alarmist with Gyno.

I would not use Forma Stanzol.