Free Diet Advice from 3J

HI 3J.
Thanks for the reply

I am an Indian, and working in night shifts so basically very poor diet.

My day starts at 3PM I eat a loaf of 7 must grain bread with peanut butter, then at 5PM before gym I have bowl of rice with split peas and 200ml of skim milk, I work out from 5 PM to 7 PM and then have 9 egg whites, at about 9 PM before work I take part of canned tuna and then again some Indian typical food, like Rice and baked Chicken about 250 GMS. and then Im at work from 10 PM- 7 AM, where I tend to hog up a Sub like Tuna with Organano bread. And fruit salad and juices.
 
Hey 3J,

If you could help me out with some diet(Like number of egg whites or Tuna , etc., )per day which would help me figure out the required
2500 calories
250g protien
150g carbs
100g fats..

Thanks
 
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Hi 3J i put it all out there I have PRO FAT CARBS 3 days 500 160 100 carbs on this day are 40 before workout 40 g dextrose after workout and then peanut butter and other foods that have trace carbs through out the day 1 day of the week ill do a carb depletion so 500 200 and 40 grams carbs only from dextrose and other trace amounts like peanut butter through out the day and then ill have a high carb day 400 160 200 right after carb depletion day to re feed glycogen my goal is to put on lean mass I have been a heavy guy my whole life over 20 % body fat and have got down to 9% and I dont want to do all the work again to trim down but i want bigger shoulders and bigger chest arms and back my legs are really huge so i train them only once a week. More in depth info on the type of foods I eat are in my last post but i eat roughly 3800-4200 to maintain but once i go over i notice I put on fat right away for me the only way to go might be aas but i heard alot of water retention I was thinking about dbol or somethin similar with arimidex to hold it off but i like the natural route. Also have noticed strength losses in the gym so i know i have lost muscle when i cut down weight from 220 - 153 so i would like that to go up as well but again i dont want to loose the abs I have workout my fuckin ass off to get here hope you can help me out bro much much appreciated thanks 3J
 
Hi 3J i put it all out there I have PRO FAT CARBS 3 days 500 160 100 carbs on this day are 40 before workout 40 g dextrose after workout and then peanut butter and other foods that have trace carbs through out the day 1 day of the week ill do a carb depletion so 500 200 and 40 grams carbs only from dextrose and other trace amounts like peanut butter through out the day and then ill have a high carb day 400 160 200 right after carb depletion day to re feed glycogen my goal is to put on lean mass I have been a heavy guy my whole life over 20 % body fat and have got down to 9% and I dont want to do all the work again to trim down but i want bigger shoulders and bigger chest arms and back my legs are really huge so i train them only once a week. More in depth info on the type of foods I eat are in my last post but i eat roughly 3800-4200 to maintain but once i go over i notice I put on fat right away for me the only way to go might be aas but i heard alot of water retention I was thinking about dbol or somethin similar with arimidex to hold it off but i like the natural route. Also have noticed strength losses in the gym so i know i have lost muscle when i cut down weight from 220 - 153 so i would like that to go up as well but again i dont want to loose the abs I have workout my fuckin ass off to get here hope you can help me out bro much much appreciated thanks 3J

ill say it again.. i need your diet set in a certain appropriate context and format..

if your not following what im saying, look at my sample bulking diet in post 1.. i need UR diet in that format..

i also need your bmr tdee..

i can tell u off the bat thats WAYYYYYYY too much protien.. not enough carbs and more then likely too much fat.. but we can easily fix that
 
Hey 3J,

If you could help me out with some diet(Like number of egg whites or Tuna , etc., )per day which would help me figure out the required
2500 calories
250g protien
150g carbs
100g fats..

Thanks

i cant set up a diet for you.. i can help you set one up.. this means u gotta do the work..

if you wanna look at food choices use my sample cutting diet as an example..

keep your carbs to bfast, pre and post workout (50g each time) and divide your protein evenly through six meals..

i give a list of good fats carbs and proteins you can eat...

post up a diet and ill make the changes necessary.. dont forget macros.. u need to go to fitday.com for that...
 
http://dailyburn.com/nutrition?date=2010-04-24

thats a sample of my diet that should be better then an in depth info also as I stated TDEE and BMR doesnt work for me it says i should eat 2700 if i add 500 to that ill still loose weight i need around 3800-4200 depending on what im doing that day i dont know why that is just how my body works.
 
Hi 3J,

This is my current diet

14 Egg whits= 50 grams protein
170 Grams of Chicken breast = 50 grams protein
Olive oil 2 tbsp = 8 grams
Whey Protein shake= 25 grams protein intake
1 Loaf of bread + Peanut butter
100 ml sweet lime juice

Please let me know if this is fine, I don't know if its right post to be posted here, is there any way i can add on steroid to it to give it a boost.

Thanks
 
http://dailyburn.com/nutrition?date=2010-04-24

thats a sample of my diet that should be better then an in depth info also as I stated TDEE and BMR doesnt work for me it says i should eat 2700 if i add 500 to that ill still loose weight i need around 3800-4200 depending on what im doing that day i dont know why that is just how my body works.

the link says u need to logon.. i cant see your diet.. post your diet up.. get your bmr/tdee.. dont argue with me about it.. just get it.. its not that hard.. doesn't take that much time and ill consider everything your saying when i critique your diet.. just follow my directions.. thx
 
Hi 3J,

This is my current diet

14 Egg whits= 50 grams protein
170 Grams of Chicken breast = 50 grams protein
Olive oil 2 tbsp = 8 grams
Whey Protein shake= 25 grams protein intake
1 Loaf of bread + Peanut butter
100 ml sweet lime juice

Please let me know if this is fine, I don't know if its right post to be posted here, is there any way i can add on steroid to it to give it a boost.

Thanks
buddy you need to really make a diet..

use my cutting diet example in post one of this thread.. see how i have my food choices..

when you post up your diet u have to post it up with full macors.. pro/fat/cal/carb of every meal.. and a daily total..

use fitday.com to help you.. i cant sit and create diets for everyone... thats reserved for my clients..

put the work in and post up a real diet like everyone else and i will help you out iv already given u a wealth of knowledge..
 
HI 3J,

I cant really thank you so much you have made this so easy for me :)

This my diet

meal1 2 pm cal/fat/carb/pro
6oz chicken breast w/o skin 177/3.8/0/33.2
1/2 tablespoon olive oil 60/6.8/0/0
1/2cup brown rice107/0.9/22/2.5
1cup broccoli 87/4.3/11.2/3.7

meal2 5pm cal/fat/carb/pro
1 oz (about 22 pieces) almonds 172/15.6/5/6
black coffee


pre workout
2 slices whole wheat bread 138/1.9/24.5/5.7
6oz chicken breast 332/13.1/0/50.3

post wo cal/fat/carb/pro
whey shake 500/7.5/82/30
1 white bagel 270/1.7/53/10.5


meal4 8 15pm
6oz chicken breast w/o skin 177/3.8/0/33.2
1 1/2 medium sweet potato 172/0.3/40.1/3.1
1 cup broccoli 87/4.3/11.2/3.7


meal5 11 PM cal/fat/carb/pro
8oz salmon 331/13.4/0/49
1 cup broccoli 87/4.3/11.2/3.7

meal6 2 AM cal/fat/carb/pro
casein protein 220/2.5/4.0/45

Total intake of calorie= 2917

Then I come back home at 7 am then sleep from 7: 30 AM to 2 PM.

Please tell me if this is good to go or you could make some necessary changes and let me know.
 
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HI 3J,

I cant really thank you so much you have made this so easy for me :)

This my diet

meal1 2 pm cal/fat/carb/pro
6oz chicken breast w/o skin 177/3.8/0/33.2
1/2 tablespoon olive oil 60/6.8/0/0
1/2cup brown rice107/0.9/22/2.5
1cup broccoli 87/4.3/11.2/3.7

meal2 5pm cal/fat/carb/pro
1 oz (about 22 pieces) almonds 172/15.6/5/6
black coffee


pre workout
2 slices whole wheat bread 138/1.9/24.5/5.7
6oz chicken breast 332/13.1/0/50.3

post wo cal/fat/carb/pro
whey shake 500/7.5/82/30
1 white bagel 270/1.7/53/10.5


meal4 8 15pm
6oz chicken breast w/o skin 177/3.8/0/33.2
1 1/2 medium sweet potato 172/0.3/40.1/3.1
1 cup broccoli 87/4.3/11.2/3.7


meal5 11 PM cal/fat/carb/pro
8oz salmon 331/13.4/0/49
1 cup broccoli 87/4.3/11.2/3.7

meal6 2 AM cal/fat/carb/pro
casein protein 220/2.5/4.0/45

Total intake of calorie= 2917

Then I come back home at 7 am then sleep from 7: 30 AM to 2 PM.

Please tell me if this is good to go or you could make some necessary changes and let me know.

looks solid
 
Hey fellas,
Thanks to 3j's help I came up with this diet And i just wanna share with the rest of the board for further input. So please feel fre to critique and add suggestions.
Stats
bmr 1805.4
tdee 2798
26yo
5'9
170lbs
14%bf

cal/fat/carb/pro
6am meal 1
3 egg whites 90/0/3/18
6oz chicken breast 165/2.2/0/39
1/2 cup oatmeal 150/3/27/5

cal/fat/carb/pro
9am meal 2
6oz chicken breast 165/2.2/0/39
1 1/2 satueed baby spinach 40/0/10/2
1oz almonds 169/15/5.5/6.3

cal/fat/carb/pro
12pm meal 3(same as meal 2)
6oz chicken breast 165/2.2/0/39
1 1/2 satueed baby spinach 40/0/10/2
1oz almonds 169/15/5.5/6.3
1/2 avocado 138/12.7/7.4/1.7

pro/carb/fat/cal
3pm meal 4(same as meal 2)
6oz chicken breast 165/2.2/0/39
1 1/2 satueed baby spinach 40/0/10/2
1oz almonds 169/15/5.5/6.3
1/2 avocado 138/12.7/7.4/1.7

cal/fat/carb/pro
5pm meal 5(pre workout)
6oz chicken breast 165/2.2/0/39
6oz sweet potatoes 194/5.5/33.9/3.3

cal/fat/carb/pro
7PM pwo shake 250/2/20/38
1 white bagel 285/1.7/56.5/11

cal/fat/carb/pro
8pm 8oz ribeye 328/12/0/50
6oz sweet potatoes 194/5.5/33.9/3.3

DAILY TOTAL
cal/fat/carb/pro
3221/111.3/235.4/351.8

well, now i know why i missed it.. solid diet buddy...
 
Hi 3J,

This my diet

meal1 2 pm cal/fat/carb/pro
6oz chicken breast w/o skin 177/3.8/0/33.2
1/2 tablespoon olive oil 60/6.8/0/0
1/2cup brown rice107/0.9/22/2.5
1cup broccoli 87/4.3/11.2/3.7

meal2 5pm cal/fat/carb/pro
1 oz (about 22 pieces) almonds 172/15.6/5/6
black coffee


pre workout
2 slices whole wheat bread 138/1.9/24.5/5.7
6oz chicken breast 332/13.1/0/50.3

post wo cal/fat/carb/pro
whey shake 500/7.5/82/30
1 white bagel 270/1.7/53/10.5


meal4 8 15pm
6oz chicken breast w/o skin 177/3.8/0/33.2
1 1/2 medium sweet potato 172/0.3/40.1/3.1
1 cup broccoli 87/4.3/11.2/3.7


meal5 11 PM cal/fat/carb/pro
8oz salmon 331/13.4/0/49
1 cup broccoli 87/4.3/11.2/3.7

meal6 2 AM cal/fat/carb/pro
casein protein 220/2.5/4.0/45

Total intake of calorie= 2917

I have updated my diet by replacing 1 cup broccolli with 3 egg white, as its getting difficult to find the same in India.

3 egg whites 90/0/3/18 and 1cup broccoli 87/4.3/11.2/3.7
Is that a good move

One small question, Water plays a major role in ones diet so with this diet how much Water intake shall I have.
 
Diet Critique

Hi 3J! I hope you can help me cut and get my diet down. Below is what I currently eat M-F and as stated, my weekends are shot. I do workout very hard in the gym though, so I can give myself credit for that at least.

Female – 31 years
5’8”
150 lbs
24% BF
BMR is 1,489.31
TDEE is 2,308.43
Mesomorph
Goal: 16% BF

*I have been at a plateau for a few months and can’t seem to break it.
My body does respond well to a low carb diet, I just can’t seem to function completely when I am very low carb, I have low energy and I get dizzy during my workouts.

Workout 5 days a week doing Upper/Lower split routine do cardio 4-5 x a week. Run 2 miles twice a week and do post workout cardio at least 3 x a week for 15-20 minutes on elliptical at moderate intensity

M-F Meals
1863.5 / 50.8 / 105.7 / 239.5
2043 / 51.8 / 143.7 / 243.5 (If I decide to eat brown rice at dinner)

I consume a little over a gallon of water a day, 1/3 of that is green tea (no sugar or condiments)

6:30 AM Meal 1:
Syntha 6 Protein Shake w/ 1 cup skim milk
Multi-Vitamin, 2 Fish Oil pills, 25 mg. E/200 mg. Caffeine
360/8/36/37

9:15 AM Meal 2:
1 cup Egg Beaters Eggs
1 sausage patty
250/12/4.5/28.5

10:30 AM Snack:
5 boiled egg whites and 10 raw almonds
2 Fish Oil Pills
249/14.9/6.7/24.2

12:30 PM Meal 3:
7 oz Tuna – Chicken of the Sea
w/ 3 cups mixed breens, 2 tbsp fat free feta, 6 kalamata olives, ¼ c. cucumbers, 2 tsp. balsamic vinegar, (sometimes 1 tbsp of EVOO)
25 mg. E/200 mg. Caffeine
267/4.5/12.5/43

4:00 PM Meal 4:
5 boiled egg whites, 1 ½ cups steamed broccoli and 2 fish oil pills
135/.5/5/21

7:00 PM Meal 5:
5 oz. lean ground beef with 1 ½ cups steamed broccoli, and 1/4 cup of fat free cheese
And sometimes 1 cup brown rice
502.50/9.9/46/55.8 (with brown rice) **I usually include this twice a week
322.50/8.9/8/51.8 (without brown rice)

8:45 PM:
Consume 3 oz. water with 4-5 grams of Green Mag Creatine and 2 grams of Beta Alanine, 200 mg of caffeine

9:15 PM-11:00 PM
Sip on Scivation Xtend 2 scoops with 32 oz. water during workout

11:00 PWO:
Casein Protein with 1/3 cup frozen blueberries, 1 cup skim milk
280/2/33/34


Sunday and Saturday
It’s all screwed up. I end up eating cereal in the morning and snack on some flat pretzels during the day and have a couple of slices of pizza and ice cream if I feel like it. I have no routing during the weekend. I think these two days ruin my 5 days of discipline.

I’ve been doing a split routine for weights that includes the following:

Day 1: Upper Body
Day 2: Lower Body
Day 3: 2 mile run on track
Day 4: Upper Body
Day 5: Lower Body
Day 6: Arms and Shoulders
Day 7: 2 mile run on track

I do mainly compound exercises with a rep range of 8-10 generally. However, my squats and barbell chest press have been around the 5-6 rep range. I rarely do direct ab work, since my compound exercises usually work that area also.

:dunno:
 
Hi 3J,

This my diet

meal1 2 pm cal/fat/carb/pro
6oz chicken breast w/o skin 177/3.8/0/33.2
1/2 tablespoon olive oil 60/6.8/0/0
1/2cup brown rice107/0.9/22/2.5
1cup broccoli 87/4.3/11.2/3.7

meal2 5pm cal/fat/carb/pro
1 oz (about 22 pieces) almonds 172/15.6/5/6
black coffee


pre workout
2 slices whole wheat bread 138/1.9/24.5/5.7
6oz chicken breast 332/13.1/0/50.3

post wo cal/fat/carb/pro
whey shake 500/7.5/82/30
1 white bagel 270/1.7/53/10.5


meal4 8 15pm
6oz chicken breast w/o skin 177/3.8/0/33.2
1 1/2 medium sweet potato 172/0.3/40.1/3.1
1 cup broccoli 87/4.3/11.2/3.7


meal5 11 PM cal/fat/carb/pro
8oz salmon 331/13.4/0/49
1 cup broccoli 87/4.3/11.2/3.7

meal6 2 AM cal/fat/carb/pro
casein protein 220/2.5/4.0/45

Total intake of calorie= 2917

I have updated my diet by replacing 1 cup broccolli with 3 egg white, as its getting difficult to find the same in India.

3 egg whites 90/0/3/18 and 1cup broccoli 87/4.3/11.2/3.7
Is that a good move

One small question, Water plays a major role in ones diet so with this diet how much Water intake shall I have.

1 gallon a day for water.. diet looks solid.. check in with me 2 weeks from now
 
Hi 3J! I hope you can help me cut and get my diet down. Below is what I currently eat M-F and as stated, my weekends are shot. I do workout very hard in the gym though, so I can give myself credit for that at least.

Female – 31 years
5’8”
150 lbs
24% BF
BMR is 1,489.31
TDEE is 2,308.43
Mesomorph
Goal: 16% BF

*I have been at a plateau for a few months and can’t seem to break it.
My body does respond well to a low carb diet, I just can’t seem to function completely when I am very low carb, I have low energy and I get dizzy during my workouts.

Workout 5 days a week doing Upper/Lower split routine do cardio 4-5 x a week. Run 2 miles twice a week and do post workout cardio at least 3 x a week for 15-20 minutes on elliptical at moderate intensity

M-F Meals
1863.5 / 50.8 / 105.7 / 239.5
2043 / 51.8 / 143.7 / 243.5 (If I decide to eat brown rice at dinner)
guessing this is fat/carb/pro
I consume a little over a gallon of water a day, 1/3 of that is green tea (no sugar or condiments)

6:30 AM Meal 1:
Syntha 6 Protein Shake w/ 1 cup skim milk
Multi-Vitamin, 2 Fish Oil pills, 25 mg. E/200 mg. Caffeine
360/8/36/37
i prefer whole foods... but u can get away with it
9:15 AM Meal 2:
1 cup Egg Beaters Eggs
1 sausage patty
250/12/4.5/28.5
ok
10:30 AM Snack:
5 boiled egg whites and 10 raw almonds
2 Fish Oil Pills
249/14.9/6.7/24.2
ok
12:30 PM Meal 3:
7 oz Tuna – Chicken of the Sea
w/ 3 cups mixed breens, 2 tbsp fat free feta, 6 kalamata olives, ¼ c. cucumbers, 2 tsp. balsamic vinegar, (sometimes 1 tbsp of EVOO)
25 mg. E/200 mg. Caffeine
267/4.5/12.5/43

4:00 PM Meal 4:
5 boiled egg whites, 1 ½ cups steamed broccoli and 2 fish oil pills
135/.5/5/21

7:00 PM Meal 5:
5 oz. lean ground beef with 1 ½ cups steamed broccoli, and 1/4 cup of fat free cheese
And sometimes 1 cup brown rice
502.50/9.9/46/55.8 (with brown rice) **I usually include this twice a week
322.50/8.9/8/51.8 (without brown rice)

8:45 PM:
Consume 3 oz. water with 4-5 grams of Green Mag Creatine and 2 grams of Beta Alanine, 200 mg of caffeine

9:15 PM-11:00 PM
Sip on Scivation Xtend 2 scoops with 32 oz. water during workout

11:00 PWO:
Casein Protein with 1/3 cup frozen blueberries, 1 cup skim milk
280/2/33/34


Sunday and Saturday
It’s all screwed up. I end up eating cereal in the morning and snack on some flat pretzels during the day and have a couple of slices of pizza and ice cream if I feel like it. I have no routing during the weekend. I think these two days ruin my 5 days of discipline.

I’ve been doing a split routine for weights that includes the following:

Day 1: Upper Body
Day 2: Lower Body
Day 3: 2 mile run on track
Day 4: Upper Body
Day 5: Lower Body
Day 6: Arms and Shoulders
Day 7: 2 mile run on track

I do mainly compound exercises with a rep range of 8-10 generally. However, my squats and barbell chest press have been around the 5-6 rep range. I rarely do direct ab work, since my compound exercises usually work that area also.

:dunno:

sounds like ur weekends are killing you.. cuz your diet is solid

i have a suggestion... can u do empty stomach cardio in the morning?

or.. and..

up your cardio pwo... make all your cardio pwo.. and make it 45 min...

the BEST time to do cardio is when ur in a carb depleted state.. this would mean losing the shake in the middle of your workout too...

your trying to cut.. but your doing certain things that look like a bulk..

the blueberries should be moved.. a semi-simple carb should be taken in pwo.. fructose doesn't pass the liver to your glycogen stores in your muscles...

u really need to get your weekends in check.. and do normal refeeds
 
the BEST time to do cardio is when ur in a carb depleted state.. this would mean losing the shake in the middle of your workout too...

3J I understand the reason for doing cardio in a carb depleted state and 95%+ I do morning cardio on empty stomach. On the few occasions when i do cardio pwo should i avoid carbs on my pre workout meal? go with fat and protein? When you do cardio pwo, what does your pre workout meal look like?
 
sounds like ur weekends are killing you.. cuz your diet is solid

i have a suggestion... can u do empty stomach cardio in the morning?

or.. and..

up your cardio pwo... make all your cardio pwo.. and make it 45 min...

the BEST time to do cardio is when ur in a carb depleted state.. this would mean losing the shake in the middle of your workout too...

your trying to cut.. but your doing certain things that look like a bulk..

the blueberries should be moved.. a semi-simple carb should be taken in pwo.. fructose doesn't pass the liver to your glycogen stores in your muscles...

u really need to get your weekends in check.. and do normal refeeds


Where in my diet does it look like I'm doing a bulk, just so i know where I should tweak it. Also should I move the blueberries in the morning and just use water for my two shakes and not skim milk?

Also the xtends that I'm taking in the middle of my workout is just BCAAs, it's not your typical shake, it's just BCAAs in powder form. You think I should nix that?

I will also try the 45 min. of cardio. Does it make a difference if I break it up? Half in the morning and then half PWO?

Thanks for all your advice!
 
3J I understand the reason for doing cardio in a carb depleted state and 95%+ I do morning cardio on empty stomach. On the few occasions when i do cardio pwo should i avoid carbs on my pre workout meal? go with fat and protein? When you do cardio pwo, what does your pre workout meal look like?

no pre workout carbs are a must... ur body uses them up in resistance training... so your carb depleted post resistance training
 
Where in my diet does it look like I'm doing a bulk, just so i know where I should tweak it. Also should I move the blueberries in the morning and just use water for my two shakes and not skim milk?

Also the xtends that I'm taking in the middle of my workout is just BCAAs, it's not your typical shake, it's just BCAAs in powder form. You think I should nix that?

I will also try the 45 min. of cardio. Does it make a difference if I break it up? Half in the morning and then half PWO?

Thanks for all your advice!

if its just pure bcaa mid workout thats fine...

no, try to do 45min straight.. at least try to build up to that.. people who are really trying to cut should do 45min empty stomach in the morning and 30 min pwo... its tough, but it gets the job done
 
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