Frustrated

[JLM777]

Hi guys. I am a 31 year old, in pretty good shape. I have not had a sex drive, been very moody, irritable and just a pain in the ass for the last year and a half. I was finally diagnosed with low T in January, total was at 270. I was put on one tube of Testim, daily, and I saw great improvement the first couple of days, then it tailed off, bad. I had another test done, this time total test only, and was at 558. My doctor was excited, too bad I'm not. I feel like shit. Tired, moody, weak erections....i don't know how my test went up and symptoms remained the same. My GF has been real supportive, but I know that she is as frustrated as I am at this point. I just want to feel normal.

Thanks guys, any advice is appreciated.

 

[methos]

Did you get other items checked with your bloowork? Estrogen levels, SHBG, Free T? Knowing your Total test alone will not help us help you, so to speak.

 

[JLM777]

He actually tested for total test only......which I am figuring out is not enough. Is it worth trying an OTC estrogen blocker or am I pissing in the wind?

WTF??? Is it easy to get my blood work faxed to me?

 

[Frustrated1]

You need to get it straightened out. Get ahold of Maximus. We don't fly low range or have other imbalances. I would immediately get cialis.

 

[methos]

You would be pissing in the wind since you would not know your base levels before trying get estrogen lower. And yes, you should be able to get bloodwork faxed to you. It's your property since you paid for it. Plus it's always good to have in your own files. I have had T levels in the 800's and still felt like everything you said. That's when I started looking in to things and found my SHBG and estrogen were high off the scale. I got those numbers down and feel invincible. Still dialing things in but I am just trying to say that you need a much more comprehensive bloodwork panel before making adjustments in my opinion. If I feel great, I get bloodwork to figure where I am at. If I feel like shit, I get bloodwork to see where I am at. It's the only gauge we have besides how we feel.

 

[JLM777]

Doc is faxing over now. I just can't believe it is this hard to feel good. If I had not found this out medically, I would have lost the woman that I love. Its hard to tell a woman its not her when Johnson is out to lunch....

 

[Nordic11]

As others have stated, a complete set of labs are required. There are several medical conditions that have symptoms that mirror low T. If your total T is 550+ and you still have significant symptoms, then T may not be your problem.

Everyone is different but in my personal experience, my symptoms were/are more dependent on E2 levels than T levels.

 

[Frustrated1]

Doc is faxing over now. I just can't believe it is this hard to feel good. If I had not found this out medically, I would have lost the woman that I love. Its hard to tell a woman its not her when Johnson is out to lunch....

Cialis

 

[JLM777]

tried Cialis alone, no luck. When I first started Testim I could drill a hole in the wall....doc has stated Thyroid is good as I had that checked since my father had some issues with that.

BTW-Appreciate the responses as I dont have a ton of people that I feel like discussing this with. Thanks guys

 

[Frustrated1]

tried Cialis alone, no luck. When I first started Testim I could drill a hole in the wall....doc has stated Thyroid is good as I had that checked since my father had some issues with that.

BTW-Appreciate the responses as I dont have a ton of people that I feel like discussing this with. Thanks guys

Your always welcome here. There's more experience here than you can imagine. Personally I would be looking at this 2 ways. First you NEED to be able to perform w/ the wife. I mentioned Cialis, because I have taken it for 5 years now. It works best the next day, w/multiple doses. Say 10mg 2 days straight is better to have sex on the 2nd day 2 hrs after taking the second dose. If your really bad off 20mg day 1, 10 mg next day. For a single day I've had a 30 barely work before (rare for me). Everybody is different, that's for sure, but this is real experience here. If you've only tried it once, you need to give it another shot. PDE5 inhibitors deffinetly work, unless something else is physical. I can also say first hand I know how the wife responds, my wife will say she understands, but when it happens, she always thinks it's her, and I end up feeling like shit. (hasn't happened since Maximus). Do you still love me, bla bla bla, has nothing to do w/her, but she always thinks it does. I always end the cconversation saying that she needs more education, lets go see the Dr together so he can explain it to her. Then she's fine. Anyways just have her read this.

Next I would get you levels straightened out. Estrogen is just as important as Testosterone. More so for the erections. Blood work is the only way to know where you are at.

 

[JLM777]

Has anyone had real success with Testim? I never hear it mentioned (at least not nearly as often as other forms of TRT).

BTW-doctor still hasnt faxed over my bloodwork. Docs give a shit right?

 

[NeonKnight]

Your always welcome here. There's more experience here than you can imagine. Personally I would be looking at this 2 ways. First you NEED to be able to perform w/ the wife. I mentioned Cialis, because I have taken it for 5 years now. It works best the next day, w/multiple doses. Say 10mg 2 days straight is better to have sex on the 2nd day 2 hrs after taking the second dose. If your really bad off 20mg day 1, 10 mg next day. For a single day I've had a 30 barely work before (rare for me). Everybody is different, that's for sure, but this is real experience here. If you've only tried it once, you need to give it another shot. PDE5 inhibitors deffinetly work, unless something else is physical. I can also say first hand I know how the wife responds, my wife will say she understands, but when it happens, she always thinks it's her, and I end up feeling like shit. (hasn't happened since Maximus). Do you still love me, bla bla bla, has nothing to do w/her, but she always thinks it does. I always end the cconversation saying that she needs more education, lets go see the Dr together so he can explain it to her. Then she's fine. Anyways just have her read this.

Next I would get you levels straightened out. Estrogen is just as important as Testosterone. More so for the erections. Blood work is the only way to know where you are at.

Spot on entire post! I always have my wife go with me to the doc, even though she's in the med field, things like this, even though it's a physical issue. the emotional part is just as much if not more an issue. for both

 

[JLM777]

Mine is also in the med field. Makes it worse i think! Doctor, for the second day, failed to get my bloodwork to me. I hate to be an ass but really?

 

[03ACE]

If they are nearby, just show up and tell the nurse to make you a copy, STAT! Seriously though, sometimes that is the easiest way. Otherwise, they get busy and can forget about you.

 

[JLM777]

So I got my test results back from the last three times
5-5-11 = 294 total Test
1-18-11 = 271 total Test
3-3-12 = 558 total test (6 weeks of testim, one tube)

I do not see anything that would resemble a free test, or estrogen, or SBGH (?) analysis.

I see alot of people stating that total test is not a good measurement of effectiveness.
Thoughts?

 

[03ACE]

If your insurance covers it, and the doc will approve it, just ask him to script the tests for E2 and all that. If not, you can go the privatemdlabs route, and order the female hormone panel. It is good to see your total test approaching normal levels, though!

 

[JLM777]

Thanks, I think the key is what you said "approaching". I feel closer to what I know I can feel like. Out of nowhere, 2 am last night, rolled over and had sex for the first time on over a month! Kinda weird the best i have felt was at 2 am in the middle of sleeping...lol I know ZMA is not that good.