Genetic Freak? & Questions.

[kaname]

I just think why should I start a compound of drugs when I don't know their effects? It's like grabbing Rum/Vodka/Bourbon and taking them all at once without prior knowing what the hell the effects are.
I know some of you guys have been on stacks/cycles for a long time but there's always someone knew to this.

Nobody is telling you to take multiple compounds at once. If you would have read you would likely come to the conclusion that running test only for your first cycle is wise. So you're analogy about mixing "rum/vodka/bourbon," is silly at best, stupid at worst.

It's one thing to ask a question that you should have looked up, but it's another thing to know the answer and still choose to go against it. If you can't get ALL of the necessary items for a cycle, then you shouldn't be running one until you can. It's part of the reason why steroids get such a bad stigma. You get a large group of people who don't cycle properly.

 

[Curious_Dan]

Nobody is telling you to take multiple compounds at once. If you would have read you would likely come to the conclusion that running test only for your first cycle is wise. So you're analogy about mixing "rum/vodka/bourbon," is silly at best, stupid at worst.

It's one thing to ask a question that you should have looked up, but it's another thing to know the answer and still choose to go against it. If you can't get ALL of the necessary items for a cycle, then you shouldn't be running one until you can. It's part of the reason why steroids get such a bad stigma. You get a large group of people who don't cycle properly.

I have been looking up articles & researching a fair bit actually, and it's actually a mixed bag of opinions on oral only cycles as also described at steroid dot com.

I honestly prefer the peoples opinions & views on a forum like this because as you know everybody will react differently to the same drugs, so it's actually research within itself to be on here in the first place.

Also my views don't go outside of here with my cycles/stacks so I don't contribute to any negative stigma in regards to steroids.

You are correct in waiting until I get the necessary items, but they are few & far inbetween, just need a reliable source & I'm good to go.

Is anyone going to answer my previous post on pinning?

 

[Curious_Dan]

It will shut yu down

An article I found in regards to the above.

"In this study, done in the early 80s, a very high dose of Dianabol (100mgs/day for 6 weeks) decreased plasma testosterone to about 40% of its normal value, plasma GH went up about a third, LH dropped to about 80% of its original value, and FSH went down about a third also (these are all approximate numbers, for the sake of brevity, but you get the idea). Body fat did not go up significantly and Fat Free Mass went up anywhere between 2-7kgs (3.3kgs average gain). The researchers concluded that Dbol increases Fat Free Mass as well as increasing strength and performance. I can only agree, having found this to be the case for me when I did my first cycle (which was 6 weeks of dbol alone at 25mgs/day), I gained roughly 25lbs and kept nearly all of it. "

 

[riprockwell]

Let's go back to common sense and logic. I don't give a shit what one study says. You show me a study saying one thing, I will show you a study saying the complete opposite. The best advice I have ever received is real world experience. For someone like you who starts pulling research out of their ass, even if you were dumb enough to run a Dbol only cycle, then why didn't you research proper PCT??? You see all those banners/ads in these forums?? They have everything you need for PCT so don't act like that shit is so hard to come by. There is a reason why we all suggest testosterone only as a first cycle. No one is saying to take 5 compounds like you are saying. Yes, you will be taking other compounds for PCT but that is how it has always been. So you post your lame ass cycle up for everyone to critique and then try to act like you know everything about dbol only cycles. It's fucking retarded man. Do some actual research here, read the stickies and soon you will look back at this retarded cycle and laugh. You even ask if Dbol will replace your testosterone levels with synthetic testosterone......Obviously you haven't researched Dbol enough man. Good luck.

 

[TheFitnessLife4ever]

Dbol only doesn't even count as a cycle... Do it the right way, or don't do it at all...

 

[TheFitnessLife4ever]

Can anyone else say RETARD?

 

[Spidermannn]

Do some more research on this site. You will figure out whats best for you. Good luck

 

[Curious_Dan]

Let's go back to common sense and logic. I don't give a shit what one study says. You show me a study saying one thing, I will show you a study saying the complete opposite. The best advice I have ever received is real world experience. For someone like you who starts pulling research out of their ass, even if you were dumb enough to run a Dbol only cycle, then why didn't you research proper post cycle therapy (pct)??? You see all those banners/ads in these forums?? They have everything you need for post cycle therapy (pct) so don't act like that shit is so hard to come by. There is a reason why we all suggest testosterone only as a first cycle. No one is saying to take 5 compounds like you are saying. Yes, you will be taking other compounds for post cycle therapy (pct) but that is how it has always been. So you post your lame ass cycle up for everyone to critique and then try to act like you know everything about dbol only cycles. It's fucking retarded man. Do some actual research here, read the stickies and soon you will look back at this retarded cycle and laugh. You even ask if Dbol will replace your testosterone levels with synthetic testosterone......Obviously you haven't researched Dbol enough man. Good luck.

Just because I cited an article does not mean I'm condoning or all for it, I'm just weighing up the different cycles/stacks people are taking.

I now know by the insane hostility everyone shows to the oral cycles, it is not recommended, but that's not to say it doesn't work for an entirely first cycle correct?

And to quote myself I do need to obtain all the right gear to get properly started, but you don't know how hard it is to get stuff into this country or let alone find people who are reliable, unless you live here of course.

To quote you also, you mention the best advise is real world experience, did you not read my previous post exactly outlining the same thing? That's the reason I'm here!!!

I've done more research to now know what Dianabol does. I'm still going to do this oral only for the first ever one & then I'll start the "Proper" way once I get the gear, I just thought people would be more supportive in their attitude & assist new people with their own experience, but the worlds not a nice place.

Has anyone actually imported successfully the things advertised here overseas?

 

[Curious_Dan]

Can anyone else say RETARD?

I'm sure your very supportive of the people around you.

Thanks spiderman, I'm reading as much as I can in my free time, yours is the only non critiquing comment I think lol

 

[juced_porkchop]

It will shut yu down

agreed!

 

[juced_porkchop]

Hi all,

I'll try to make this post short as I've got an insane amount of questions & I've read a lot of the stickies in each board. I'm 27 - 5'11 - 102KG - Not sure of my BMI or BF%??

I've just started my first Dbol cycle 20mg ED, I know it's oral only, but it's hard to get a hold of these products, I want to try to obtain some Test-E, but the whole needle/aspirate thing puts me off a little. I don't know why but I know I'll have to give it a go to see it's results.

I'm not going to lie but I've had a small case of gyno for a long time, without ever taking juice. I think when I was on Prednisone at a young age it developed, the weird thing is on Dbol it looks & feels as it's reduced which is really strange? Does Dbol replace your normal testosterone with synthetic testosterone? Hence the reason you need to have PCT to balance the hormones out?

Couple of Pro's/Con's just in point form if anybody can comment on them It would be greatly appreciated.

Dbol/Test-E with a PCT of Nolva/Clomid &/or Aromasin would be a good proper first stack? I was going to take this Dbol only for 4 weeks on / 2-3 weeks off with no PCT (Because I don't have any!!) then try to obtain all the stuff above.

Pro

-My mood has greatly increased.
-My hormones, more so sex drive has increased, is that normal?
-Definitely noticable size gain, 4 KG in 2 weeks!
-Pumping more sets/reps every session.

Con

-A little bloated due to my excessive water intake, so thirsty all the time!
-My poo really smells now.
-No hair loss yet!
-Sometimes a little numb in some joints of a morning.
-Sleeping an extra 1 now too. Not sure if that's a bad thing?


That's all that I can think of now, thanks for any help in advance, much appreciated

read the stickys I and others have put in the aas section.....

 

[juced_porkchop]

oral only/dbol cycles are dumb for MANY reasons and im not wasting my time saying why ,,, its all here if you look for it. do a test only cycle for first cycle is only advice ill give, if you dont listen like most noobs its not skin off my back...

 

[Hull Tech]

dbol is a 17aa it's mildly androgenic and mildly aromatises ( aromatase ), but it still requires test and still requires and Aromatase inhibitor (AI). it may not shut you down in 5 days like deca will but it will shut you down significantly over a few weeks easy. What your feeling right now is the top of the hill.. your on your way down to limp dick town and no amount of C/V is going to help that. Man the F up, get some test and do it right.

..and dan right below that little quote you pulled is the SIDE EFFECTS.. don't be a twat, if you want opinions and your going to use them great.. but nobody is going to justify an oral only cycle for you. You want to roll the dice do it yourself and shut up.