Getting the feel

Numero-Uno

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I wanna start steroids soonish to get quicker gains (wanna know if this is a good ideas of not) only for about 3 months just to at least know what it's like. I heard that test e is good for newbies to use on the first cycle just to get used to steroids.. True? And as for gyno is it obvious when you start to get it and when is it too late to use anti-oestrogens?
 
Do some more research buddy. Generally people on this board do not like answering questions that could be answered with a minimum amount of research. Read ALL the stickies, then ask your question.

For instance, if you would have done proper research then you would know that you should not ask forum questions without listing your stats first. What are your stats?
 
My bad haha didn't know it was necessary I guess I will get reading after this, okay well I'm 75kg bout 12% body fat or in lbs I think I'm about 165? I'm 6' and I have only been gyming for about a year only serious (5 times a week for 3months) any other stats? I'm still getting naturally bigger and stronger but I wanna have try steroids to speed up the process oh and I am 19
 
My bad haha didn't know it was necessary I guess I will get reading after this, okay well I'm 75kg bout 12% body fat or in lbs I think I'm about 165? I'm 6' and I have only been gyming for about a year only serious (5 times a week for 3months) any other stats? I'm still getting naturally bigger and stronger but I wanna have try steroids to speed up the process oh and I am 19

At 19, 6' 165 and only been lifting a year, you shouldn't be taking steroids.
Eat a shit ton of food, lower your lifting volume, and wait a few years.
If you start juicing now you're most likely going to hurt yourself.
 
At 19, 6' 165 and only been lifting a year, you shouldn't be taking steroids.
Eat a shit ton of food, lower your lifting volume, and wait a few years.
If you start juicing now you're most likely going to hurt yourself.

Whys that? Bad for the body at my age? Or is it a bad reason just to wanna start so early into my whole gymming experience? But it would work yeh? If I took it for about a cycle I would get noticeable improvements in the gym?
Edit: What do you mean by lowering my lifting volume? Like lift less?
 
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Whys that? Bad for the body at my age? Or is it a bad reason just to wanna start so early into my whole gymming experience? But it would work yeh? If I took it for about a cycle I would get noticeable improvements in the gym?
Edit: What do you mean by lowering my lifting volume? Like lift less?

At 19 you have PLENTY of testosterone to make a considerable amount of gains.
You've only been lifting for one year so you still have a lot to learn in terms of both diet and physical exercise. Also, your ligaments, tendons, and joints most likely wouldn't be able to support the weight increases you'd be getting in the gym.
Yes, if you did take steroids you would get very noticeable improvements. But you need to build a solid foundation before you start taking steroids. This is a marathon not a sprint man. Building muscle takes time and dedication and looking for the quick fix isn't the answer. A good analogy is that of a car: You want to go fast so you decide to give your car NOS. But you didn't start from the ground up and perform maintenance like change the oil or give it gas. So you're going NOWHERE.

By lowering your volume, I mean decrease the amount of time you spend in the gym. Do less sets and give yourself more time to RECOVER.
 
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numero-UNO,

first of all you're overtraining, second of all steroids work best for people who have tapped all or most of their natural potential. you need to get your calories up, get your training program set up properly, and watch the improvements. I'm not trying to be a dick, but you are nowhere near the point of using anabolics effectively at this time. give your body a chance to improve on its own man. my 2cnts. good luck dude.
 
Thanks guys, yeh I think I just wanted a quick fix, I am aware of many of the side affects but didn't know about all the counter measures I would have to set in place in order to well counter the affects. And I guess your right about spending too much time in the gym but I didn't know overtraining actually stunted my gains, well I guess it doesn't hurt to learn all about steroids and maybe in a year or two I can try them, I know this may seem like an asinine question but when will I know to use them? As in do I really have to wait till I reach my genetic lifting limit or is it fine using it but first knowing of all the side affects and all the ways to stop/prevent them
 
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numero-UNO,

I'm not trying to be a dick, but you are nowhere near the point of using anabolics effectively at this time.

My goal is to get bigger and stronger so in using steroids now that would still be the case yeh? But if I were to use steroids once I'm at my limit it would be more effective then? Either way wouldn't I get better gains than what I am achieving naturally and if I continued at the same volume wouldn't steroids make it as though I'm not overtraining? Just a thought
 
Thanks guys, yeh I think I just wanted a quick fix, I am aware of many of the side affects but didn't know about all the counter measures I would have to set in place in order to well counter the affects. And I guess your right about spending too much time in the gym but I didn't know overtraining actually stunted my gains, well I guess it doesn't hurt to learn all about steroids and maybe in a year or two I can try them, I know this may seem like an asinine question but when will I know to use them? As in do I really have to wait till I reach my genetic lifting limit or is it fine using it but first knowing of all the side affects and all the ways to stop/prevent them

If you maintain a solid training regimen and diet for a few years, most people will say that's a good baseline. Educate yourself in not only AAS, but in physical training and diet also. That way when you're physically ready, you'll be mentally ready also.
 
If you maintain a solid training regimen and diet for a few years, most people will say that's a good baseline. Educate yourself in not only AAS, but in physical training and diet also. That way when you're physically ready, you'll be mentally ready also.

Agreed
 
my final thoughts for you

Uno,
the last thing I will tell you is that if you get your training regimen in line, get your diet in place, and train hard you should see very fast improvements in all the categories you are looking for. hope this info helps. hold off on the gear for awhile man.
 
Thanks guys, I'm glad you guys gave me proper insight and not just burning me for wanting to use it so early, really appreciate it.
 
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