Going for a restart....MAYBE found a good Doctor!

[Alpin]

forget the binge drinking for this weekend and focus on the restart protocol at hand that has been assigned to you by this endo....
start popping those clomids and do your 14 days like a man!!.
Alcohol will raise E2....
Call your friends up and make arrangements for non alcoholic beverages to be consumed from your end.
Start taking your health seriously!

 

[JonnyBravo22]

forget the binge drinking for this weekend and focus on the restart protocol at hand that has been assigned to you by this endo....
start popping those clomids and do your 14 days like a man!!.
Alcohol will raise E2....
Call your friends up and make arrangements for non alcoholic beverages to be consumed from your end.
Start taking your health seriously!

I don't think you understood my post. It was my first time drinking since October. I drink maybe once ever 3 to 5 months. I take my health very seriously. That is why I am spending thousands of dollars trying to figure out what is wrong with me.

 

[jomamma007]

The point is, if you take 2 weeks of clomid and your test goes up ,it'll just fall back down after you stop.

No informed hormone specialist would leave you hanging like your ignorant doctor.

Contatct Increase My T.

 

[Alpin]

The point is, if you take 2 weeks of clomid and your test goes up ,it'll just fall back down after you stop.

No informed hormone specialist would leave you hanging like your ignorant doctor.

Contatct Increase My T.

This doc he is seeing is 80 +years old mind you. It's acclaimed he knows his stuff.

 

[Alpin]

I don't think you understood my post. It was my first time drinking since October. I drink maybe once ever 3 to 5 months. I take my health very seriously. That is why I am spending thousands of dollars trying to figure out what is wrong with me.

Taking clomid for 2 weeks is costing you thousands of dollars ?

 

[JonnyBravo22]

Taking clomid for 2 weeks is costing you thousands of dollars ?

Since October.....went to Doctor with lower back pain, mood swings, and no libido. (and swollen pelvic nodes)

2 Endos
1 Urologist
1 MRI of Brain
1 MRI of Back
1 Cat Scan with Contrast of nodes
1 Physical Medicine Sports Doc
1 Psychologist
2 Different Family Doctors with a total of 10 visits. Including 3 visits where they gave me the shots telling me they were free but go a bill for 60 dollars each for just walking in and having the nurse give me shot.

Trust me.....thousands of dollars trying to figure out my medical problems after going 8 years with not a single doctor visit because I had no insurance.

Edit: Also I did not end up drinking at all. Took my 3rd Clomid a few hours ago.

 

[JonnyBravo22]

I don't understand why I seem to be getting attacked. I am at my Doctors mercy. I am not calling the shots here he is. Sure I can switch doctors again but why? The next one might be worse.

First Doctor: Threw me right on TRT but would not allow me to go higher than 600 total test.
Went to Endo: Nothing is wrong with you, you are just stressed. You have muscles so you have test. Come off of it immediately.
Went to Urologist: Follow the first doctors protocol and get an brain MRI.
Next Endo: Current

More was involved with all of them but hat is the basics.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

I didn't see any labs. Where were you FSH levels. Thats the place to start before you increase you LH levels.

 

[Alpin]

I don't understand why I seem to be getting attacked. I am at my Doctors mercy. I am not calling the shots here he is. Sure I can switch doctors again but why? The next one might be worse.

First Doctor: Threw me right on TRT but would not allow me to go higher than 600 total test.
Went to Endo: Nothing is wrong with you, you are just stressed. You have muscles so you have test. Come off of it immediately.
Went to Urologist: Follow the first doctors protocol and get an brain MRI.
Next Endo: Current

More was involved with all of them but hat is the basics.

No you not getting attacked. I understand these dicks will drive you nuts....
each one has their opinion and they are not the ones living with Low T....you are.
Just do this gig for the 14 days and run the labs and keep us informed.
The second Endo you saw was a dick...."you have muscles you have Test"....
how much muscle are you carrying ?
Just more proof the medical community is comprised of idiots that stereotype and pre judge you on false pretenses.
You have Low T on labs....he should shut the F up and run a restart or just stick to dealing with diabetics and such tell him.
I would tell him if it were me. A few endos have ben total dicks to me.
They rather you go away and suffer in silence. They don't want to deal with Mens hormones.

 

[Alpin]

I didn't see any labs. Where were you FSH levels. Thats the place to start before you increase you LH levels.

His FSH is 3.3 miu/ml...
3 months off everything. Good accurate baseline.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

I'd stimulate the FSh with HCG and then follow it with IGF-1LR3 and clomid. If anything will bring you back it will.

 

[JonnyBravo22]

I'd stimulate the FSh with HCG and then follow it with IGF-1LR3 and clomid. If anything will bring you back it will.

I am guessing all of that is UL as well and I would have to attempt to self medicate with it?

Aplollon I have worked out since I was 21...at 24 I got pretty serious about it. I have made gains but seemed like I had to work twice as hard and as long for them. Legs wont' grow like a "normal" mans. NO, I do not skip leg day other than the time I was in rehab. I am only 6'1 176lbs. I have been blamed for using steroids but that is from people with lesser physiques than me. If i were on steroids and worked and trained like I do I understand them enough to know I would be every bit of 200lbs.

Edit: And no....not even prohormones or any type of test booster. I am way to cheap for that and understand they are a gimmick for the most part.

 

[Alpin]

Dread

HCG has an effect on FSH cause of the intertesticular T it increases....
But using HCG on it's own I've seen from my personal use that both my pituitary hormones(LH, FSH) were suppressed to nothing.

What dose of Clomid do you like on a restart Dread ?

 

[Alpin]

I am guessing all of that is UL as well and I would have to attempt to self medicate with it?

Aplollon I have worked out since I was 21...at 24 I got pretty serious about it. I have made gains but seemed like I had to work twice as hard and as long for them. Legs wont' grow like a "normal" mans. NO, I do not skip leg day other than the time I was in rehab. I am only 6'1 176lbs. I have been blamed for using steroids but that is from people with lesser physiques than me. If i were on steroids and worked and trained like I do I understand them enough to know I would be every bit of 200lbs.

Edit: And no....not even prohormones or any type of test booster. I am way to cheap for that and understand they are a gimmick for the most part.

Post a pic of your physique so we can see....what else can I say ?
Sounds like this Endo is ridiculous to me if at all....
Just do your 14 day run of clomid and get back to us cause we all want to know the results.
How has he advised you to take it one every 10 hours or something ?
Keep your head up!

 

[Alpin]

I'd stimulate the FSh with HCG and then follow it with IGF-1LR3 and clomid. If anything will bring you back it will.

whats IGF-1LR3 ?

 

[JonnyBravo22]

Pic

 

[jomamma007]

steroids

 

[jomamma007]

is this you currently with your 275 total T?

 

[JonnyBravo22]

Yes....actually I looked like this before getting tested the first time in October and had 245 Total T. Highest I ever got was 678 at the end of my 3 month TRT. Was only on 80mg 2x a week.

I know this is the internet but I have no reason to lie. This isn't a bodybuilding forum and I am not trying to impress anyone. I did NOT go to the doctor for low T. Just no libido and no mood swings. So I was not searching for testosterone (steroids). I hate needles and if I wanted steroids wouldn't I have just stayed on TRT?

 

[jomamma007]

Was kiddding about the steroids.
Why don`t you just find a doctor that will prescribe your hrt and who knows what they're doing.

Call local pharmacy and see who they reccomend for hrt. Call and ask if they let you self inject, prescribe hcg and ai`s, and will let you run the lab work you need.
Will save you time instead of getting dicked around like youre currently.

Have you ruled out sleep apnea and thyroid conditions? Whats your cause of low test?

Contact the board sponsor IncreaeemyT, they might be able to help.