yes.. but pain is the name of the game... i play college football and being in college I cant afford all the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to run long cycles of test... I have never injected anywhere besides my ass... what is the other least painful injection spot.. I believe prop. is EOD injection is this true.. so i believe that 4 injection spots will get the job done.. I guess I will need some reading up to do on prop. because I have no knowledge of the steroid.. i know it is same basically but I will just need to learn the basics.. injecting/ how much to inject and so on... I am thinking more along the lines of running 6 weeks cycles with prop and taking 4-6 weeks off after the cycles and running a short post cycle therapy (pct) after the cycle.. Im hoping to save money on running this.. and the main reason is because I have 8 mths before the first drug test and I need all the cycles in possible because I want to start at linebacker by next year.. maybe a long shot.. but hey its a goal, and Im hoping to achieve it..